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As “freedom loving” white people everywhere gathered to get drunk off Bud Light and watch fireworks light up the sky, comedian Chris Rock took a moment
to point out what should be obvious: The 4th of July wasn’t Independence Day for black American slaves. Rock tweeted:
“Happy white peoples independence day the slaves weren’t free but I’m sure they enjoyed fireworks.”
So tell me, how can a fact be controversial? Yes, white patriotic (see: fascist) Americans everywhere are bashing Rock for his supposedly un-American comments, but they’re angry at the wrong guy.
If they insist on frothing at the mouth, they should direct their anger at their own smarmy ancestors, who acted with such overt duplicity and inhumanity. The only thing Chris Rock did was point out a historical fact. But hey, as they say, the truth hurts.
Here are just a few of the tweets directed at Rock for telling the truth. Let’s dissect each of them based on their own particular logical fallacy:
Tweet #1: “I wonder if the free man Crispus Attucks would agree with you. Not all blacks were slaves and not all whites were free.”
So, this imbecile puts forth the notion that since at least one black was free, slavery didn’t exist. Gotcha.
Tweet #2: ”The Declaration of Independence led directly to emancipation. No nation with that as a foundation could long tolerate slavery.”
Still doesn’t change a d**n thing. Blacks were chattel, and saying one thing led to another doesn’t change that fact. It’s the kind of rationalizations dizzy high school girls use to describe why they have to buy the dress to go to the party that will lead to the conversation that will lead to the cool girl’s table that will – at last- lead to dating the high school quarterback. Grow up.
Tweet #3: “ “Good one! I bet your Guatemalan house staff got a good chuckle.”
Even if Rock has Guatemalan workers at his home, I’m sure they’re paid a salary, and that’s a h**l of a lot more than slaves received. An elementary attempt at a straw man argument.
Anyway, welcome to America, where the villain is always the victim, and vice versa. Happy July 5th. I, for one, am glad the 4th is over.
Yvette Carnell is a former Capitol Hill and campaign staffer turned writer. She is currently an editor and contributor to Yourblackworld.
todd mcclure
August 2, 2012 at 2:48 am
…the AmeriKKKa-CraKKKer,should be put down like the rabid dog,he and his offspring is,it is clear,after reading the postings,by these incarnate-savages,that their lack of empathy and humanity clearly”ear-marks”them…as sub-human…by their own theological and ideological-doctrines(which they have,failed miserably…at living up to,since the,very onset,of that c**t-TREE… I WISH DEATH AND PESTILENCE UPON THEM AND THEIR OFFSPRING(LITTLE-DEVILS),FOR IMPINGEMENT,UPON MY PEOPLES AND KIND… DON´T HATE ME…YOUR OWN KIND,TAUGHT THIS TO ME!!!
Tray65
July 20, 2012 at 10:34 am
Thanks Derrick for the truth…..I appreciate u….
PEACE!
Dr. JohnnyACE♠ GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™
July 10, 2012 at 10:23 pm
“Until the lion can tell his story, tales of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.”
–African proverb. {{-_-}}
Mau
July 10, 2012 at 3:17 pm
According to the spook who loiters for pay at this site continuously, if there was a site like this aimed at whites..blah, blah, blah…well take a look at this! http://www.dirtyniggerblog.com Just goes to prove that the FBI is sending spooks to this site and every other site that caters to blacks b/c they apparently don’t have enough work framing people with fake terror plots. Just another day at the office.
Chris Gibbs
July 10, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Mau:
Wow. That site is offensive. Even though you are little loopy with that FBI stuff, you got a point about that site. That site makes Derrick look like a blonde girl handing out candy to the white kids at school.
My apologies to you. That site is far more racist. It also made my computer fail when I tried to post something to a story.
Derrick is a little out there with the moon and alien stuff, the Greek Myth of Queen Europa and some other stuff, but that guy has Derrick beat in the racism department. Some funny pictures, but other than that, sorry site in general.
ALICIA RAE
July 10, 2012 at 1:01 pm
D-Rhyme, your last comment could not have been said any better. lol Derrick, keep slaying them with the truth.
Derrick
July 10, 2012 at 3:09 pm
@ALICIA RAE:
We all have a mission on this Earth! We can reach our people through many channels. Some of us have the gift of gab, some of us are on the battlefields, some of us use their mental and writing skills to wake our people up.
THE REVOLULTION WILL NOT BE ON TELL-A-LIE-VISION.
Just keep doing your part, also. I’m reading your commments my sister and keep putting those negroids and caucasoids in their place!
terence koonce
July 10, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Derrick your at godsend.you are so knowledgeable about our-story and the history of this country.It is unfortunate you are meeting so much resistance to the truth.All I can say is this fact, white people can never see past their racism, and a lot of black people are ignorant and feel they should not speak about our-story because it might anger their masters. peace to you my brother….
Derrick
July 10, 2012 at 3:04 pm
@terence koonce: “white people can never see past their racism, and a lot of black people are ignorant and feel they should not speak about our-story because it might anger their masters.”
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Nothing but the Truth!
These negroids have been BRAINWASHED because they are afraid to speak up! I think we must leave these modern day slaves to burn by the woodpile with their caucasoid counterparts!
Peace & Truth
d-rhyme
July 10, 2012 at 12:59 am
Chris you are wayyyy off buddy. Show respect and leave this site. Why are you here? If you give blacks reparations and dignity they will not rob and kill you or me. You are dangerously stupid.
d-rhyme
July 10, 2012 at 12:53 am
What threat? Reactionary and thoughtless. Whites are dying from poor people robbing and raping white women daily. If you don’t do something about poverty and despair you wont be able to build enough jails. You Mis read me. I am trying to save your life and mine. Think before you speak and understand what is said. We are finished. Peace to you.
Chris Gibbs
July 10, 2012 at 6:18 am
I concede I misread that statement of less dead white people. Most of your other comments were insulting and derogatory. I naturally assumed that was your point.
As far as leaving this site, it would be disrepectful for me to leave. The racism towards the white race is unabashed and goes on with impunity. Are you challenged by another point of view or would you prefer to bash the white race without resistance?
If there was site like this for whites it would face condemnation from every black leader who had a computer.
Like I said before, I came to this site by accident when I stumbled across a bullshit rant by Watkins trashing my alma mater for being racist based on 4 girls with black face during a “Black-out” theme night for their new uniforms. I couldnt believe the racist c**p I read. Now, instead of wasting time on Facebook, I waste my time reading the kill whitey theme of these comments. Ocassionally, I feel the need to respond as I did with Derrick. Everyone else chose to pile on.
As far as reparations, still wont happen.
d-rhyme
July 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Give us enough land as payment. We will do the rest. Less whites will die I promise you.
Chris Gibbs
July 9, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Nice. Threats from a position of no power. You are like North Korea without the nukes… There is some nice warm land south of Gila Bend in AZ that the government would love to give you. Perhaps you should have someone besides you write a well-developed business plan that outlines your use of the land and perhaps the government will grant you your request.
As far as the threat, goof-ball, I am sure there are some rednecks who would love such a challenge. It would most likely end badly for you and those who follow. Just saying. I guess by being dead, you wouldn’t have to worry about being repressed by the criminal justice system and the white devils.
d-rhyme
July 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Chris is a r****d. Ranting. It is a crime dumb a*s to receive stolen property. Your ancestors stole it and handed it down to you. Reparations instead of incarceration, welfare and other handouts from liberal racists who are buying votes . The saved lives is worth more than money. I think the muslims put you here to prove white people are devils. They got their moneys worth. Your anger and ignorance will destroy you and your offspring. Gods law.
Chris Gibbs
July 9, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Is there a point to this muddled diatribe? Are you smoking bath salts and eating b******k with Derrick? You should step away from the keyboard until the effects of the drugs wear off…
AMAZINGGRACE
July 9, 2012 at 3:30 pm
@Chris Gibbs, You feel African American don’t deserve reparations. That’ your problem. I don’t give a d**n about white indentured people. I do give a d**n about my People! Your white forefathers were a bunch of raping, wiping, slave owning Monsters!. And my people will never forget what your people did to our Ancestors.
Chris Gibbs
July 9, 2012 at 7:46 pm
You are correct. Its nothing personal, but I dont believe in reparations because there are other ways to help without bankrupting the country. Fact:
A) There is no one alive who suffered as a slave.
B) There are no taxpayers alive who own or owned a slave.
I understand your concern that the negative trickle down effect of slavery has impacted the black community greatly. But you will never get reparations because the people being punished werent the ones who committed the crime. You would have more lawsuits than lawyers to represent the taxpayers. Welfare and disability would disappear because taxpayers would revolt. It will never happen….
d-rhyme
July 9, 2012 at 11:37 am
Now Chris. What little credibility you had is lost forever. You brought up individual responsibility. It is irresponsible to rob someone and then not take RESPONSIBILITY for it. Any half witted person can see that. Your dumb a*s is a fool for royals who first robbed your ancestors and made you justify robbing someone else. You were the original n*****s and savages. If it makes you feel any better your ancestors were the original victims. You robbed and murdered because it was first done to you. We are in this together if you will stop being duped by the real culprits.
Chris Gibbs
July 9, 2012 at 1:29 pm
You make no sense. The US cant afford the current entitlements (reparations in some folks mind) in place; you think we can afford reparations too? You are out of your scattered-brained mind if you think you will ever receive a penny for reparations.
Did I rob someone? As far as personal responsibility, if you can find where I hide my slaves, well then, I will personally give you everything I have for reparations. Do I cry foul that the English kingdoms held my great ancestors in servitude? No need to. My family was obviously able to rise above it.
Nice try though.
ALLISON
July 8, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Caucasoids CAN’T STAND THE TRUTH! Who in their right mind what to accept the fact their relative’s were child rapping, slave buying monsters in the 1st degree? None of them. Just want to go along telling African Americans to forget the past and move on.. No, I won’t move on until reparations are paid in full! And now you want AA to return to the mind set of the 1940′, 1950′ and 60′s so you can feel, you have your country back??? This is what this election is all about. I’ll be d**n if I’m going back to a mindset so preverse. And every African American on this blog should feel the same way too.
Chris Gibbs
July 8, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Reparations? Now your talkin! Talking foolishness, that is. If you think you have racism problems now, try telling Americans there is a new tax for reparations on top of the ridiculous entitlement taxes in place already. Most, if not all, non-reparation recieving taxpayers would revolt and make life h**l for anyone expecting to be paid reparations.
Reparations…. You should be on the comedy tour with Chris Rock….
Resa
July 8, 2012 at 3:38 am
Laryn Hill will be sentenced for tax invasion Nov 27. It she is going to speak to the court before sentencing. It what she says is anything like what she said in her interview with Essence Magazine in 2006, it will be powerful.
The judge ordered her to undergo mental health counseling as directed by pre-trial intervention services.
It’s been said she’s “crazy”, I begged to differ, far from it.
Can’t wait for Nov 27th. Chris Rocks tweet was said to be truth in a joke. Ms Laryn will speak the truth and it won’t be a joke.
d-rhyme
July 8, 2012 at 3:22 am
@ Tony G ask yourself the question. Are you an Oreo? No offense but you only criticized and offerered nothing. Pointing at others makes you feel like somebody. A weakling perhaps. If you are angered by this you prove my point. WHAT THE h**l IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SPREADING TRUTH? YOU ARE out of your mental league. Go play with your video games.
RealLove
July 8, 2012 at 3:00 am
@Tony Gee LMAO at your idiotic stereotyping comment. Who the F are you to be askking questions? Do you even belong on this website? Lurking MFer looking for a black person to mentally lynch. You are either a sorry white supremist kkkracker or bootlicking sellout trying to impress a white woman. GTF off this website. Sorry a**.
Tony Gee
July 7, 2012 at 9:27 pm
These postings are hilarious! From the level headed responses to the militant rebuttals! Black power preachers in the forums while killings in Chicago rival those in Iraq and Afghanistan!! Strip clubs jammed packed as I type this, unwed mothers and black brothers looking for another! Yet the same is perpetrated in these forums by using terms like “overstand” Yikes and calling people with a difference of opinions sambo’s and uncle toms and such the like. Incredible to say the least. I can kill the whole arguement by simply asking: what have you done for your fellow brother or sister lately?
Resa
July 8, 2012 at 3:09 am
Your comments are true. I just saw an article with a little boy in a video with two woman talking about their butts. Totally unacceptable and every adult involved should be arrested and charged with child abuse.
You referred to militant comments posted here. I disagree. The reason why is there is a pattern with White people dealing with truth. You call it militant, radical, controverial (the new word) I call it the truth, it’s facts, it’s history.
If you can give me one example of what you consider militant, I bet I can prove that it’s facts and truth.
shazza
July 7, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@chris is your whorin mum really your sister and the devil you call dad your uncle? How come palefaced people who lack melanin love to hurl abuse at our beautiful race? Yet your people are deranged, psychotic and inbredz. If your lot were oppressed in the same manner you inflict on blacks and other races, there would be no chicken livered beasts left to roam this earth. Why? Because you and your entire bloodline are weak and insipid. If it wasntt for the gun/ammunition the tables would be turned. But remember this you kracker red knecked devil and dog beast of burden, karma is a blood clart b***h! Remember, I told you so, inbred….
Chris Gibbs
July 8, 2012 at 8:38 pm
What?
Name calling? Are you in third grade and thats the excuse for this weak post? You just embarrassed all black men with that weak mess.
I didnt degrade your race, only Derrick. And now your ignorant a*s.
Resa
July 7, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Why do you think any brother or sister spoke the truth was silenced? Because they were talking about things the power structure didn’t want you introduced to. Some of it is in left field, but it’s the concept that can be modernized. We have to go back in history to get an understanding as to where we need to go. Because SOME Black people is more concerned about Black people think that the power structure knows what’s best for Black people and have been indoctronated into the thinking of the oppressor, we will see a backlash, but keep on pushing. They will try to flip the script but history don’t lie.
Like Malcolm said “I came here to tell the truth and if the truth is anti-American, then blame the truth, not me! HOPE AND CHANGE IN THE 21ST CENTURY!
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 8:17 pm
A lot of negroes are afraid of the Truth. These screachas are scared to teach the Truth. They ‘preach’ what they were taught to preach, but when it comes to the Truth, they are not allowed to teach it!
This is why negro screachas get tax breaks and are not allowed to talk about racial issues or Black Liberation Theology. RELIGION IS AN ORGANIZATION. And when you belong to an organization, you must abide by THEIR rules. This is the role of the screacha…he dances to the white boy’s music.
You are very knowledgable and hope you continue to speak the Truth. I have read some dialogue from some True Warriors. These Uncle Sambos and Aunt Sambos, will always be slaves to their massa’s.
Peace & Truth
Resa
July 7, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Read about the Black Panthers, Eldridge Clever, Stokley Carmichael, Huey Newton, Fred Hampton(Especially the bio of Fred Hampton), Marcus Gravey,Malcom X, WEB Dubois,George Washington Carver, James Baldwin,Booker T. Washington, Mohammad Ali. I especially engjoyed John Henrik Clarke’s A Great and Mighty Walk http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5784756819358533059#. You might not agree with him, but I’d rather believe his version of history than American History.
Really listen to Fred Hampton. That was a heavy brother. That’s why the FBI, the Chicago and State Police killed him.
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Here are some more warriors you will enjoy listening to, and reading some of their Truth.
Bobby Hemmitt out of Atlanta. The late and great Reverend Phil Valentine. Ishakamusa Barashango. Indus Khamit-Kush [What They Never Told You in History Class: Volume One]
Revelation 1:3 reads, “Blessed is he that readeth…”
Peace & Truth
Resa
July 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Marion Wright Edelman has a blog in Huffington Post titled “Ending the Cradle to Prison PipelineTM and Mass Incarceration — the New American Jim Crow” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marian-wright-edelman/ending-the-cradle-to-pris_b_1655138.html.
They didn’t post my comment, I guess because it’s to “Controversial”.
There can be all the symposiums and conferences to address the issues of the Black community, but until the conversation is about truth, time is wasted.
When we face the fact that we are Mentally Enslaved, there will be no solutions.
The truth is the power structure in this country bait with cheese in a trap and Black people always eat the cheese. You can’t lay blame on them, the blame lies within all of us. The educated and non-educated. The wealthy, middle class and the poor.
We have to understand that it is important that we take advantage of all the education opportunites that are available to us, but we also have to educate ourselves on how the world works. We need to understand how imperialism works and how it affects our livelyhood. The same with capitialism. Capitalism can be good or bad. There’s good money and bad money. Our livelyhood depends on our mental state. Mental Slavery is the biggest problem for Black people around the world. That’s why African/Black people around the world are second class citizens. That where superiority and inferiorty comes into play.
Think about it. Just about everything we know has been taught starting with the Africans that came to this country for free labor. The brainwashing that was inflicted on them has been passed from generation to generation. Their names, culture, faith and language was forbidden and replaced with European names, culture, faith and language. Just because that’s what was taught, doesnt make it true nor should it be embraced. Those that came before use didn’t have access to what we have access to today. We need to go back into our history, read it and understand it. Our history did not start with a voyage across the alantic for free labor. It’s not only about Jim Crow and Segregation. It’s about a group of strong people who endured hardship and fought for equality. When the fight for equality was somewhat resolved with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, it didnt address centuries of brainwashing. That’s where the superiority and inferiorty issue comes into play.
We have to stop allowing the power structure to dictate how the game is played. We don’t have to accept the music industry and the media’s marketing to the Black community. We need to start calling out Black people who are being used to bring destruction to their own people. It’s not always about money and material things. We don’t need to change who we are to fit into mainstream America. Let mainstream America fit in with us.
What is Chicago Urban Prep and other schools around the country who are successfully graduating Black youth? Why are we still begging the same people who setup this failed system in the first place to educate our kids. Their education should start at home, in the community. That’s where our control starts. That’s the foundation.
We need to have our own “Spiritual Spring”, not religious but spiritual. The Black Church has turned into Black Hustle, all about money, pettiness and hypricosy. Remember what I said about African brought to this country were forbidden from practing there faith, that religion that they were taught and passed through generations ain’t the truth! Let it go and go back to spirituality. There’s a differece between religion and spirituality.
Money is not everything and it’s not a magic bullet for happiness. Those that are selling the soul for money may seem happy, but that’s on the outside looking in. Money is only as good as your mentality.
JayZ thinking he can take racism out of the word “n***a”, is arrogant and shows the control the power structure has over him, Mental Slavery. Bob Johnson and his BET opened the door for the destruction we see in the Black community today. The people who were introduced to this evilness had children and passed on the evilness, plain and simple. Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, Ice T, are now in hellawood making movies and living the life while their destructive music has brought new sorry souls, with prison mentalities on the scene. Playing right into the hands of the power structure. It’s nothing wrong with making money, but when what you do to make your money brings destruction, it’s not acceptable and we should call them out.
We have to change our controlled mentality and reach out to our brothers and sisters in the Caribean and Africa. We are all cut from the same cloth and experienced the same oppression.
Speak the truth, this is about our existance on this earth. Our soul and sprirt should not be for sell and it definetly should not be for sale.
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Excellent info and commentary!
Moloaka Tubman
July 7, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Remember {t}homas {j}efferson’s Betrayal
By Bill Moyers, Reader Supported News 02 July 12 {excerpted, edited)
re: “……… the Declaration of Independence itself, ……… Opponents, …….., greeted it with sarcasm. ‘How can you declare “All men are created equal,” without freeing your slaves?’ ……….. Jefferson, …… an aristocrat whose inheritance of 5,000 acres, and the (Enslaved Persons} to work it, mocked his eloquent notion of equality …….. (including) the children born to him by the slave Sally Hemings and {Ms. Hemings herself}. …..
Only an obscure provision in jefferson’s will released HIS children after his death. All the others ,, scores of {Enslaved Persons} – were sold to pay off his debts. To {glorify} his argument today is to {wallow in} the pathology of white superiority that attended the founding of this “country” that {prospered ONLY on the GENOCIDE and ENSLAVEMENT of Indigenous and African Peoples.}
‘David Walker, {the great African-Descended FREEDOM-FIGHTER}{noted}’Jefferson’s argument had “injured us more, and has been as great a barrier to our emancipation as any thing that has ever been advanced against us,” for it had “… sunk deep into the hearts of millions of the whites …..” ‘
‘jefferson lived “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” WRONG, denying to others the rights he claimed for himself.
{In the midst of} fireworks, flags, barbecues and bargain sales — let this thought guide us: that behind this Fourth of July holiday are {10s-of-millions of “human beings who” were MURDERED, ENSLAVED, BRUTALIZED, UTTERLY DENIED THEIR DIGNITY}, ………. “How much remains to be done.”
d-rhyme
July 7, 2012 at 3:24 am
Dew. OK. Lets say people are totally responsible for their decisions however false that may be. Do you know how many degreed people are on the unemployment lines? Your wife is lucky. Not decisions. In case you did not know, this land was stolen by your ancestores and labor was stolen from african americans. You inherited stolen land and wealth from slavery. You therefore have an advantage. But sir you are mentally deficient or so totally mislead by your own people you do not think with a full deck. Turn it around such that you were negroid you would see it from our perspective. Why should we accept injustic ? Because in your eyes we should be happy that you would lower yourself to just speak to us. Come on. Insensitivity to othersview and suffering is learning to be insane. Insensitive is insanity. No feelings. A dead man walking. No soul. People with soul and feelings live forever. Its over for you after this one.
RealLove
July 7, 2012 at 2:37 am
Where the F was I at when this conversation was going on? Why are there racist kkkrackers on this website commenting on our issues? Their intention as well as a few sell-outs was to demean the intelligence of the black man (as usual) and turn history around to make it look like we caused our own problems. And those that claim that people are not giving solutions but instead complaining, what are they doing? Just brown-nosing and licking boots. Gain some knowledge and learn to speak out against the what has happened and is happening to our people. To this day Africans (yes blacks in Amerikkka) suffer at the hands of institutional racism in prisons, schools and the general public. Genocide is underway at the hands of the pigs and black communities are being gentirfied and sold out to white ungrateful capitalist blood sucking thieves. Gain some knowledge and speak the truth. And the idiot that spoke of the 7%ers, get your numbers right. The correct name is 5%er.
Peace and much Love to the brothas that spoke up and stood your ground. Our ancestors have many blessings in store for you. All others gain some knowledge before you suffer further in eternal damnation (here on earth) in your own ignorance. BTW I do have solutions and am using them widespread. Only those that are seeking to know the truth and how to solve the problems mentioned above know who I am and what I am about. Now what are you doing to solve problems or do you even really care. Maybe you are just complaining because you dont want you little dreamworld to be as Fd up as those that have suffered from the evils of the oppressors. You are just as bad as them.
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RealLove; you just spoke some RealTruth!!!
Peace & Truth
yaya
July 7, 2012 at 1:25 am
lots to said i just want to chirp in here..we did sell us into slavery..i know black african families that got rich off of selling us to the white man…but i believe when we helped capture our brothas and sistas we had no idea of the misery we were selling them into…
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 7:59 pm
ANOTHER BRAINWASHED NEGRO, WHO BElieVES THE LIES OF CAUCASOIDS
Please read this araticle:
The Myth of Black African Slave Traders
Posted: Sunday, February 15, 2004 by Ayanna
ISLAM, COLOURISM AND THE MYTH OF BLACK AFRICAN SLAVE TRADERS
Africans in the Diaspora have the challenge of rewriting a history that has been stained by years of distortions, omission and downright lies. One of the biggest challenges of rewriting this history has been the Atlantic Slave Trade, and one of the biggest sore points has been the idea that “Black Africans sold their own into slavery”.
A lack of information, a paucity of expansive scholarship and an unwillingness to have a serious discourse on Colourism as it existed in Africa even before European intervention, has contributed to this. Diaspora Africans are often quite naïve and will do anything to hold fast to the illusion that ” we are all Africans” and ignore the racism that has existed among a group that is far from uniform.
In looking at the issue of Colourism I could not help seeing the links between the role of Islam in Africa and the role of Africans in the slave trade. The book, Islam and the Ideology of Slavery by John Ralph Willis is very helpful in looking at the almost imperceptible link between the enslavement of ‘kufir’ non-Muslims or infidels, and the belief that Black Africans were not only heathens but inherently inferior.
This is not a new thought and certainly not one that originated with the Muslims coming into Africa. Several Jewish exegetical texts have their own version of the mythical Curse of Ham being blackness. Given the common origins of these two major religions, it is thus not surprising that both Jews and Muslims played some of the most important roles in the enslavement of Black Africans next to the Europeans.
In an article by Oscar L. Beard, Consultant in African Studies called, Did We Sell Each Other Into Slavery? he says “Even the case of Tippu Tip may well fall into a category that we might call the consequences of forced cultural assimilation via White (or Red) Arab Conquest over Africa.
Tippu Tip’s father was a White (or Red) Arab slave raider, his mother an unmixed African slave. Tip was born out of violence, the rape of an African woman. It is said that Tip, a “mulatto”, was merciless to Africans.”
The story of Tippu Tip who is one of the most widely known slave traders has always posed a problem for historians, especially Afrocentric historians in the Diaspora trying to find some way to reconcile themselves to the idea of an ‘African slave trader’. The fact that Tippu Tip was not only Muslim, but ‘mulatto’ is vital. The common ideology of Judaism and Islam where Black Africans are concerned is certainly no secret.
While in some Islamic writings we see an almost mystical reverence for Africans, especially an over sexualized concept of Ethiopian women who were the preferred concubines of many wealthy Arab traders and Kings, in others there is distinct racism. Add to this the religious fervor of the Muslim invaders, their non-acceptance or regard for traditional African religions, and the obvious economic and political desires for which religion was used as a tool, and we get an excellent but little spoken of picture of Islam in Africa.
Historians did not often record or think of the ethnicity of these ‘Africans’ who sold their brothers and sisters into slavery. As part of our distorted historical legacy, we too in the Diaspora buy the idea that all Africans were uniform and ‘brothers’, but the true picture, especially at this time was not so.
Centuries of contact with Europe, Asia, North Africa produced several colour/class gradients in the continent, divisions fostered by the foreigners. This may have been especially prominent in urban and economic centres.
When we combine the converting, military force of Islam sweeping across western and eastern Africa placing a virtual economic stranglehold on villages and trading centers that were Kufir, with the intermixing of lighter-skinned Muslim traders from the North and East Africa creating an unprecedented population of mixed, lighter skinned Africans who began to form the elites of the trading classes we can see how a society begins to change.
Some historians have tended to downplay, or completely ignore the potential for change in scenario. It has even been suggested that one cannot transplant a modern day problem outside of its historical context. However, we see this creeping problem of colourism occurring all over the continent.
In the Portuguese colonies of Angola and Mozambique where European traders and administrators were encouraged to intermarry, the elitist, trader class was largely Mulatto and Catholic. If we look at the situation in Ethiopia with the age-old oppression of the original Ethiopians, the Oromo of indigenous Cushitic stock, by the more Arabized Amhara this too has its roots in colour prejudice.
There were hints of this occurring in many other instances at crucial points of contact between indigenous black Africans and lighter-skinned foreigners or mixed Africans and the most significant of these were in the areas of severe Islamic incursion.
Many towns and villages converted to Islam because of the protection that the military banner of Islam could offer them in a changing economic, political and social landscape. But the more damaging result was the many light skinned, converted Africans, children of mixed encounters that now felt a sense of superiority over their dark skinned, black African counterparts.
Colourism is indeed of ancient vintage. The truth of the matter is that fair skinned Arabs’ racist attitude towards Blacks existed even before they invaded Africa. The evidence for this can be found in how they dealt with the Black inhabitants of Southern Arabia before they entered Africa as Muslims. Discerning readers and thinkers can look at this and many other accounts of this time and get a clearer picture of the inherent racism of this situation.
When we combine this with the desire for African slave labour by Europeans it was no large feat for these often lighter skinned, Islamized Africans to enslave the black kufir, whom they barely endowed with a shred of humanity. And of course jumping on their bandwagon would have been those black Africans with deep inferiority complexes, who would have been only too eager to do the duty of the ‘superior’ Muslims in an effort to advance themselves.
These facts are certainly not hidden and the patterns are everywhere, even today but it is we who do not like to see. For centuries we certainly have not been conditioned for Sight.
This leads us to another direct way colourism played itself out in the slave trade and this is in the ‘type’ of Africans who were enslaved. The biggest victims of slavery were undoubtedly the darkest Africans of what was called the “Negroid” type. If you look at old maps and documents by early European explorers you can note that the parts of the continent that they explored was divided by their crude definitions of what they saw as different African ethnicities.
The regions of West and Central Africa were seen as the place of the “Negroes” which was distinct from Ethiopian Africans and even more so the lighter, more Arabized North Africans. We cannot say that NO Africans we taken from the north, but by and large most slaves that came to the West Indies, Americas etc were of the type mentioned above.
Beard continues, “In reality, slavery is an human institution. Every ethnic group has sold members of the same ethnic group into slavery. It becomes a kind of racism; that, while all ethnic groups have sold its own ethnic group into slavery, Blacks can’t do it. When Eastern Europeans fight each other it is not called tribalism.
Ethnic cleansing is intended to make what is happening to sound more sanitary. What it really is, is White Tribalism pure and simple.” But the thing is that this thing we call ‘slavery’ never was a uniform institution. When people speak of slavery they immediately think of chattel slavery as practiced as a result of the Atlantic Slave Trade and apply this definition to indigenous African servitude systems, which bore little or no resemblance to chattel slavery.
It is misleading to say, “Every ethnic group has sold members of the same ethnic group into slavery. It becomes a kind of racism; that, while all ethnic groups have sold its own ethnic group into slavery, Blacks can’t do it” as it denies the complexities of that particular colonial, chattel slavery situation that existed between Africans and Europeans.
Servitude systems that existed in Africa, and in other indigenous communities cannot be compared to racist slave systems in the Western world and to this day we attempt to try to see this slavery in the same context. People bring up accounts of Biblical slavery, of serfdom in Europe and yes, of servitude in Africa and attempt to paint all these systems with the same brush.
However NO OTHER SLAVE SYSTEM has created the never-ending damaging cycle as the Atlantic Slave Trade. West Indian poet Derek Walcott has stated his feeling that our penchant for forgetting is a defense mechanism against pain, that if we were to take a good hard look at our history, at centuries of victimization, it would be too much for us to handle and we would explode.
Well I say we are exploding anyway and in many cases from bombs that are not even our own. We have begun the long hard road of rewriting our ancient history, of recovering our old and noble legacy. Let us not stop and get cold feet now when the enemy now appears to take on a slightly darker hue. We must look at the slave trade in its OWN context, complete with all the historic and psychological peculiarities that have made it the single most damaging and enduring system of exploitation and hatred ever perpetrated in the recent memory of mankind.
Until we do we will not escape its legacy.
Forrest T. Akers
July 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
This is a good article. One of the best I have read. In spite of the comprehensiveness of slavery, as designated by the article. (And all slavery is bad.) We must always remember the fact that European chattel slavery was the only one that denied a people their humanity. Which is most important. And that some of our brothers were forced, because of technical inferiority (weapons), to capture other Africans, to save their families.
Peter D. Slaughter
July 7, 2012 at 12:47 am
Wow and overall a great comment.I guess he got tired of cooning and playing all these crossdressing homosexual roles that so many white people like to see black males playing.The ones that make them feel so safe and secured,instead of the angry black ” Native Son ” type of image.
Now if black people would tune in and find out about the fake SSN#’s the fake driver license and the fake birth certificate.They might would wake up and stop being pimped $$$$ as slaves.
David2001
July 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Even thought I agree with him I’m not much of a fan of Chris Rock. Odd that many of the whites who are now criticizing him on Twitter were the kind of whites that made him a crossover superstar. When he justified calling black people n*gg*r white people loved him to death. Now those same white people are turning on him.
As far as the 4th of July it’s just a day off for me. Rather than spending so much time getting worked up over white peoples hypocrisy and racism we need to spend that energy taking care of our own problems. Unemployment, crime, babies being born out of wedlock, drug addiction etc. We spend to much time caring about what white people think and how they see things instead of taking care of our problems.
dew
July 6, 2012 at 11:46 pm
That exactly right….
d-rhyme
July 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Actually. It would change a whole lot. Injustice will not change if no one whines as one paleface mentioned. Stop whining about our whining and prove your humanity. I would expect a superior race to be models of truth and justice. Prove why we should just accept our poor condition.
dew
July 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm
but that’s just it… its not OUR poor condition… it’s a situation that has been caused by a snowball of bad decisions. at some point and time someone thought it was a good idea to go against a few things because they had a bad hand dealt to them. i know what i’m saying sounds horrible… but i look at it like this… i married a woman who had a TERRIBLE hand dealt to her, but she still managed to make good decisions, earned her bachelors and masters degrees and is a productive member in this society that says there was no way in h**l she should have made it. i still think the responsibility lies with the individual, truth exposed or not…
that’s all i’m sayin’…
Forrest T. Akers
July 7, 2012 at 2:24 am
Dew,
Before you can accomplish anything you must first be able to visualize it. If you can’t see it first it won’t materialize. Part of the problem with us is that many of us have no vision. We can’t see things as being any other way than as they are today. So they quit trying and say. “What’s that going to change?” A sign of a defeatist mentality.
What must happen is that we must make sacrifices for our children. More than the ones we are making now. We must make sacrifices for the changes we may not see ourselves. Europeans do it. We don’t.
First, we must see that our destiny is not dependent, or irrevocably tied to any other group.
Forrest T. Akers
July 7, 2012 at 2:56 am
I hate to keep responding to you, but you keep saying things, while well intended, are consistently wrong. Your wife’s achievements while admirable are not her “individual” ones. First, she is not an “individual.” There is no such animal. As Maulana Karanga, Amiri Baraka, and white scientist will tell you, nothing makes up who you are beyond your heredity, and your environment. Therefore everything you are is both genetically and socially determined. Everyone is a unique combination of both that determines your distinctiveness. Thus you are a “person”. You should refer to people as people or persons, not “individuals”.
Individuality is part of the game. We think we accomplish on our own, without realizing that without the assistance of others we wouldn’t excel at all. Yet we want to take credit for it by ourselves. As Afrikan-Americans (I hate that term.) we consistently attempt to express our “individuality”, Other people act in groups. They teach us to act as “individuals” while they do everything in conjunction with each other.
You know what I observe. Every Black, or even other ethnicities, that use that word are pseudo-intellectuals trying to impress people. Like my mother said, “Trying to look cute, but looking curious.” And when I hear a person use that term, I know that I am listening to a fool. Understand that nothing your wife did was by herself. Not anything that we do is.
I’m finished with you.
dew
July 6, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I usually don’t post in anything like this. but here goes…
For the guys telling the truth:
Everything that you are saying is valid and has its place, but I pose this question…
What difference is it gonna make if all the things you mentioned changed? If Columbus day and the 4th of July are abolished, then what? If they fix the history books to tell the whole story, then what? What will it really solve??? Yes, you are right, the truth will be out there and people can be aware of it. But it isn’t going to change ANYTHING. You will still have to work for those opportunities that are definitely a little easier for others in this country. You will still have to make wise decisions in order to keep yourself and your family safe. All of the things that are “wrong” in this country will still be there… You will still be responsible to live YOUR life…
stop blaming everyone else for a change…
ITS PLAIN AND SIMPLE…. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
Forrest T. Akers
July 7, 2012 at 2:06 am
What will it Change? The most important thing of all. How we view ourselves!!! It will change how our children will view themselves, and see the anti-Afrikaness of some of their behavior. They will see and appreciate their Afrikaness and strive to replicate the grand achievements of our ancestors. They will know more about themselves than just our history of bondage, and learn about our long history of directed rebellion. All they see now is a bunch of Negroes with a sidekick mentality. And, being proud of it, Which is why some of them reject their elders.
They will learn who this country really belongs to, and it is not “us” or white people. Again, we are just sidekicks. We helped the whites take this country from someone else, and feel blessed. We go around patting ourselves on the back for being accomplices in an atrocity.
The only person that would ask that question is someone who does know anything. Dew, it would probably help you, and your self-esteem. It would change you.
Forrest T. Akers
July 6, 2012 at 10:10 am
I apologize to Kevin Webb. I didn’t mean to put his name on the previous comments.
Forrest T. Akers
July 6, 2012 at 10:06 am
Whites should read Frederick Douglass’ “What to the Slave is the 4th of July?” The unmitigated arrogance of whites asking a former slave to help them celebrate the 4th while his people were still enslaved. Now you expect todays Blacks to do the same thing. You people make me sick, because you still exhibit that ignorant arrogance. You try to tell other people how to hurt, and what decisions to make. Why don’t you help the Japanese commemorate the bombing of Pearl Harbor? Why don’t you help the Iranians celebrate 9/11? (Not that they did it, but they sure were happy.) IT AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN!!! You expect Blacks to do stuff you wouldn’t do. Always a double standard! You just need to learn how to shut up, and learn something instead of assuming you know EVERYTHING.
AFRIKAN-AMERIKKKANS with selective amnesia are just as bad. It serves their cowardly nature to forget. I am not one to forget, nor am I one to forgive. Especially, when the transgressions continue on a daily basis. (Note: William Patrick Best is a slave, he just doesn’t know it. Read “Brainwashed” by Tom Burrell.)
Steve B Malcolm
July 6, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The often untold history and perspectives regarding the 4th of July http://yourworldnews.org/blog/?p=3828
Ishmar Muhammad
July 6, 2012 at 9:32 am
White Supremacy! And America Reaks of it,You are Black & the Whiteman will never Forget it & never let you forget So accept your own be yourself! The Truth is The Truth & needs no explanation So keep Dropping Knowledge Chris Rock I love the skit you did about Black People & Negroes that was funny I am tired of these common Blacks they set us Back a Hundred years with that ignorance some of our people love Whitefolks & why when you gets no Love. they have been planning our Demise ever since they so called let us Go which they never Did! It was Slavery ReDressed Sharecropper System slavery by another Name AIDS and all this Dope & Prisons are doing it now! Wake the h**l up & seek the Lord you will need Him Real Soon!
JembeQueen
July 6, 2012 at 7:52 am
and with regard to the tweet by Chris Rock…
IT’S A JOKE PEOPLE – LIGHTEN UP! jeez.
Americans have lost their minds. What you should care about, you don’t (like schools turning out uneducated people, people killing other people like it’s a normal thing and drugs tearing up our country).
What you shouldn’t care about – a COMEDIAN MAKING A JOKE, gets turned into a major discussion. That’s like brotherman I forget his name, made a joke during the stupidbowl (Superbowl) about some gay commercial or whatever it was. That became a STORY to talk about for what, a month or so? That’s not news, that’s a JOKE and homosexuals aren’t so special you can’t make a joke about them.
Who gave them that power and why?
Same thing about white people. We should just laugh and remind them that it’s A JOKE. DEAL WITH IT. They laugh at Chris Rock’s black jokes.
Stop being hypocrites – all a ya’ll.
john
July 5, 2012 at 11:48 pm
The real travesty here is that Rock (and several posters) totally miss the point. Independance day is for ALL Americans, regardless of race, creed or color. There is no denying the atrocities that occurred in the past, but really, what is the harm in standing up together now and being proud to be American? Must we fight this unwinnable fight over and over, and do it on a day that it meant to bring us together? Rock’s statements may be self-serving, but they may also be his personal belief. But it is still a selfish act to take away a positive day for his own viewpoint. I won’t try to convince others about this (Derrick), I will just refer you to a quote from M.F. to Denzel in “Glory”…..”if you aint careful, that’s all you’re ever gonna be”
profit
July 5, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Its a a waste of tyme arguing with psychopaths. They’ll eventually die off. Live your life to the fullest and dont focus on them psychopaths. All your gonna get from them is double talk.
J. D. Hill
July 5, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Hey, brothers and sisters? What about our future as a people? What can WE do to improve the plight of Black folk in America?
Can we begin by treating each other with courtesy and respect – like we all are somebody?
Edward Smikle
July 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Well you have to understand that America live a lie every day, so telling them the truth is a waste of time,Until their God show they a sign, and I do not know what would be .Because they are God’s chosen to rule over us.I do believe 9/11, was the first time that we ever face reality that we have done wrong in the world, and not every body is like us black people always say that God will take of it.I am not saying 9/11, was right but it show that there are some people in the world who will retaliate. That was a wake up call to all of us, to look what our government is doing in the world. And let them know when you think their actions is wrong. Stop being a silent majority, become a vocal minority. We condone all the wrong that have and continue to be done to us, stop kessing thse people bit.I curse them out every day.
Eshab4real
July 5, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Speak truth my sisters and brothers as we fight slavery today with knowledge and education. Pass the knowledge on as our true independence day will not come until we are dead in our graves for the racism in this country is so invisibly threaded into people’s minds and hearts that the change needed will only come by separation on JUDGEMENT DAY! WHEN ALL EVIL WILL BE SENTENCED TO ITS ETERNAL BURN! JUST LOOK AROUND YOU ….YOU ARE ONLY FREE IN YOUR MIND WE ARE WALKING AROUND IN A PRISON OF RACISM, DISCRIMINATION, INJUSTICES and INEQUALITY EVERYWHERE ON THIS PLANET! IN THIS WORLD WHO IS FREE? AND FREE OF WHAT? WE ARE SLAVES TO UNCLE SAM a.k.a. THE US GOVERNMENT! STUDY HISTORY AND MAKE A STAND NOT TO BOW DOWN TO ANY MAN! OMG
nedrea scott
July 5, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I can’t even comment because I am at a loss for words with the comments in this thread so I’ll leave it alone.
tee
July 5, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I can relate with you.
Nick Westbrooks
July 5, 2012 at 8:55 pm
On one hand, many of us African Americans are still enslaved. It may not be in the form of chattel slavery like in 1852 when Frederick Douglass asked the question “What to the American slave is the Fourth of July?” But, the present-day manifestation of physical slavery comes in the form of mass incarceration and the prison industrial complex. Presently, many Blacks are mentally enslaved as well. The curse of Willie Lynch still exists. Even if you don’t fall into any of these categories, the Fourth of July still isn’t for African Americans, because racism still exists. As long as racism persists, Independence Day isn’t for Black people. Read my post about it:
tee
July 5, 2012 at 8:50 pm
@ R. Brown & Ms. Sandra Massie Hines thank you and may the good Lord in Heaven our Savior bless you tremendously in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
tee
July 5, 2012 at 8:42 pm
@ Ms. Sandra Hines Thank you Ms. Sandra Massie Hines for your intelligent, honest comments. There are other ways we can express our opinions without offending, degrading, disparaging one another. The good Lord is just and He will right all wrongs, I take comfort in knowing He is the one and only judge. And Jesus Christ takes good care of me in spite of all the evil in this world for I am not of this world I am His. Only His thoughts matter to me. My savior knows the truth and He is fair. As far as this world, country is concerned whether it is past, present or to come the Lord will make it all right for His people no matter what. Thank you Ms. Sandra Massie Hines for reminding me. And God bless you.
R. Brown
July 5, 2012 at 8:36 pm
As we blacks all know, racism is well and alive today, just not as it was in slavery days, now it is like swept under the rug, but they are ever present in every profession A-Z, no exemptions. Despite all, we must not allow ourselves to fall into this sick mentality, that the racists obviously possess, which seems to be a genetic defect in them generation to generation and we do know there are saved whites, it just comes across that the majority have this bias mentality, which is based purely on Hate, which will send any individual to a eternal h**l because it is 100% contary to the Word of God , which is Love for all mankind, God sees only the inside of ones heart we can not allow ourselves as individuals to become entangled in Hate, which is of the Devil God Loves the sinner but not the sin in the sinners life, so must we who are Christians possess this same mentality of Love for God will deal with All sinners from the beginning of civilization down to His return and Judgement. The choice is ours Heaven or h**l, and that certainly includes all racists past and present(especially the many slave owners) who will have their place in a eternal fiery h**l. We as blacks must forcus on the love of God, despite those who are our enemys by living a life of Holiness and God will handle the rest in His own way and own time, not ours.
tee
July 5, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Thank you so much for your Godly wisdom and may He
bless you tremendously you and Ms. Sandra Hines for your comments were inspiring. God bless you.
Eshab4real
July 5, 2012 at 8:27 pm
The truth is the TRUTH!!! AMERICAN HISTORY IS SICK and has inflicted cruel and unusal punishment to African-Americans a.k.a. blacks a.k.a. colored people a.k.a. minorities! You better red these history books. Slavery was and is REAL TODAY! They even made black have a deragatory meaning!
Definition of BLACK
1a : of the color black b (1) : very dark in color (2) : having a very deep or low register (3) : heavy, serious
2a : having dark skin, hair, and eyes : swarthy b (1) often capitalized : of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin (2) : of or relating to the African-American people or their culture (3) : typical or representative of the most readily perceived characteristics of black culture
3: dressed in black
4: dirty, soiled
5a : characterized by the absence of light b : reflecting or transmitting little or no light c : served without milk or cream
6a : thoroughly sinister or evil : wicked b : indicative of condemnation or discredit
7: connected with or invoking the supernatural and especially the devil
8a : very sad, gloomy, or calamitous b : marked by the occurrence of disaster
9: characterized by hostility or angry discontent : sullen
10chiefly British : subject to boycott by trade-union members as employing or favoring nonunion workers or as operating under conditions considered unfair by the trade union
11a of propaganda : conducted so as to appear to originate within an enemy country and designed to weaken enemy morale b : characterized by or connected with the use of black propaganda
12: characterized by grim, distorted, or grotesque satire
13: of or relating to covert intelligence operations
— black·ish \ˈbla-kish\ adjective
— black·ly adverb
— black·ness noun
BLACK COMPARED TO WHITE!!!!! THIS IS MENTAL SLAVERY
Definition of WHITE
1a : free from color b : of the color of new snow or milk; specifically : of the color white c : light or pallid in color d : lustrous pale gray : silvery; also : made of silver
2a : being a member of a group or race characterized by light pigmentation of the skin b : of, relating to, characteristic of, or consisting of white people or their culture c [from the former stereotypical association of good character with northern European descent] : marked by upright fairness
3: free from spot or blemish: as a (1) : free from moral impurity : innocent (2) : marked by the wearing of white by the woman as a symbol of purity b : unmarked by writing or printing c : not intended to cause harm d : favorable, fortunate
4a : wearing or habited in white b : marked by the presence of snow : snowy
5a : heated to the point of whiteness b : notably ardent : passionate
6a : conservative or reactionary in political outlook and action b : instigated or carried out by reactionary forces as a counterrevolutionary measure
7: of, relating to, or constituting a musical tone quality characterized by a controlled pure sound, a lack of warmth and color, and a lack of resonance
8: consisting of a wide range of frequencies —used of light, sound, and electromagnetic radiation
TEWDROWOS
July 5, 2012 at 7:55 pm
PEOPLE PLEASE ALSO READ WHAT IS THE THE 4TH OF JULY TO A SLAVE BY THE GREAT FREDERICK DOUGLAS….PEACE!
Junior
July 5, 2012 at 7:25 pm
They are p****d because they can’t handle the truth. Look at what these very same “Patriotic” Amercians have been and are still doing since November 2008. Nuff said.
Hilda
July 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm
I have read all of the above. Some interesting, informative (new) and some unnecessary; but opinions are like a-, everyone has one. I needed to respond because there was the reference to churches, preachers and universities. I’m a methodist pastor myself and will say that when pastors attempt to teach liberation, the mind of those not ready to receive it will blame the deliverer because they want to shout, stomp, spit and sweat. Not that that is bad, but you should leave with info and knowledge that transforms and empowers. I think Karl Marx said religion is an opiate, Jesus’ example was to set those in need free. Not all Caucasians are the enemy nor are all Afrimericans your friend. All knowledge is good, the receiver must do their own research to determine if its good for them or the other person. I’m in a position now w/leaders who want me to accept the concept of white privilege being too difficult to for them believe. While I see the effects of the racism/oppression destoying my family, community and opportunity being stolen from young people with great potential. Are the culprits all white hay-yell no! But only those willing to take the stand & criticism, teach, enlighten, refuse to quit, will make a difference. One must choose to join or just get out of the way.
d-rhyme
July 5, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I am proud of my brothas. It is so good to see you stand for truth. A black president means nothing when Columbus day is still recognized. post racial my azz. Whites want us to shut up now the POTUS is black. Barak got more than he bargained for. a black face on a racist society. It will destroy him. Unless he has no soul or conscience. Does not jibe no matter how you look at it. It was suicadal. One day he will see this. I question black people’s even wanting to push him to this. Unless he outlaws Columbus day and even independence day, he only validates these days by having his grinning face associated with them.
Mau
July 5, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@Chris Gibbs–This Plan is still relevant today and reflects conditions that are still in place as we speak, even almost 46 years later.
The Ten Point Plan
WE WANT FREEDOM. WE WANT POWER TO DETERMINE THE DESTINY OF OUR BLACK AND OPPRESSED COMMUNITIES.
We believe that Black and oppressed people will not be free until we are able to determine our destinies in our own communities ourselves, by fully controlling all the institutions which exist in our communities.
WE WANT FULL EMPLOYMENT FOR OUR PEOPLE.
We believe that the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every person employment or a guaranteed income. We believe that if the American businessmen will not give full employment, then the technology and means of production should be taken from the businessmen and placed in the community so that the people of the community can organize and employ all of its people and give a high standard of living.
WE WANT AN END TO THE ROBBERY BY THE CAPITALISTS OF OUR BLACK AND OPPRESSED COMMUNITIES.
We believe that this racist government has robbed us and now we are demanding the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules. Forty acres and two mules were promised 100 years ago as restitution for slave labor and mass murder of Black people. We will accept the payment in currency which will be distributed to our many communities. The American racist has taken part in the slaughter of our fifty million Black people. Therefore, we feel this is a modest demand that we make.
WE WANT DECENT HOUSING, FIT FOR THE SHELTER OF HUMAN BEINGS.
We believe that if the landlords will not give decent housing to our Black and oppressed communities, then housing and the land should be made into cooperatives so that the people in our communities, with government aid, can build and make decent housing for the people.
WE WANT DECENT EDUCATION FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT EXPOSES THE TRUE NATURE OF THIS DECADENT AMERICAN SOCIETY. WE WANT EDUCATION THAT TEACHES US OUR TRUE HISTORY AND OUR ROLE IN THE PRESENT-DAY SOCIETY.
We believe in an educational system that will give to our people a knowledge of the self. If you do not have knowledge of yourself and your position in the society and in the world, then you will have little chance to know anything else.
WE WANT COMPLETELY FREE HEALTH CARE FOR All BLACK AND OPPRESSED PEOPLE.
We believe that the government must provide, free of charge, for the people, health facilities which will not only treat our illnesses, most of which have come about as a result of our oppression, but which will also develop preventive medical programs to guarantee our future survival. We believe that mass health education and research programs must be developed to give all Black and oppressed people access to advanced scientific and medical information, so we may provide our selves with proper medical attention and care.
WE WANT AN IMMEDIATE END TO POLICE BRUTALITY AND MURDER OF BLACK PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR, All OPPRESSED PEOPLE INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.
We believe that the racist and fascist government of the United States uses its domestic enforcement agencies to carry out its program of oppression against black people, other people of color and poor people inside the united States. We believe it is our right, therefore, to defend ourselves against such armed forces and that all Black and oppressed people should be armed for self defense of our homes and communities against these fascist police forces.
WE WANT AN IMMEDIATE END TO ALL WARS OF AGGRESSION.
We believe that the various conflicts which exist around the world stem directly from the aggressive desire of the United States ruling circle and government to force its domination upon the oppressed people of the world. We believe that if the United States government or its lackeys do not cease these aggressive wars it is the right of the people to defend themselves by any means necessary against their aggressors.
WE WANT FREEDOM FOR ALL BLACK AND OPPRESSED PEOPLE NOW HELD IN U. S. FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, CITY AND MILITARY PRISONS AND JAILS. WE WANT TRIALS BY A JURY OF PEERS FOR All PERSONS CHARGED WITH SO-CALLED CRIMES UNDER THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY.
We believe that the many Black and poor oppressed people now held in United States prisons and jails have not received fair and impartial trials under a racist and fascist judicial system and should be free from incarceration. We believe in the ultimate elimination of all wretched, inhuman penal institutions, because the masses of men and women imprisoned inside the United States or by the United States military are the victims of oppressive conditions which are the real cause of their imprisonment. We believe that when persons are brought to trial they must be guaranteed, by the United States, juries of their peers, attorneys of their choice and freedom from imprisonment while awaiting trial.
WE WANT LAND, BREAD, HOUSING, EDUCATION, CLOTHING, JUSTICE, PEACE AND PEOPLE’S COMMUNITY CONTROL OF MODERN TECHNOLOGY.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience hath shown that mankind are most disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpation, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
Chris Gibbs
July 6, 2012 at 8:59 am
Mau:
Nice copy and paste of the racist Panther’s 10 Point “plan”. The plan isnt a plan; it is a list of demands and wants. Typical of the black panthers and whiners on this site. None of you can sit down and produce a plan, a realistic plan, of action to actually help your people. Give me, Give me, give me. You havent a plan in place to take advantage of the opportunities this great country has to offer, other than smile & wave when you open up that welfare check. Sticking it to whitey, one check at a time – Just give me what I “deserve”. Reparations & welfare over jobs – Just give me! My brother-in-law has started 2 racially diverse businesses that directly hire black & Mexican youth to help rebuild Houston homes and buildings in depressed areas. He is black and has been here for 18 years and done more for black & mexican youth than Quanell X could dream of. Thats the difference between spewing the TRUTH and actually rolling up your sleeves and doing something. Quanell and his clan have proven they are more likely to step in front of a camera for publicity than pick up a shovel to help build a community. Most of you would be sitting under some mud & palm hut, swatting flies, waitng for the UN food drop if it werent for the the slave trade dragging your ancestor’s a***s over here. Lemonade out of lemons, right?
Good for Derrick and the mountain of useless history. It’s his version and he has a right to it as a citizen of the country he reviles so much. He probably had plenty of time to sit and study while sitting in his jail cell. And, by god, if his granddaddy said it, it must be as true as any of the writings from those silly ol’ anthropologists who actually traveled to Africa to study the trade slave origins.
Derrick, Stay off the bath-salts and keep on reading up. Its going to do you a lot of good one day. You’ll be the most useless, but well read black man on your block.
When I take my boat out into the bay today, I’ll make sure to flip an extra quarter to the black guy, Max, who preps the boats. Doing my part to for the TRUTH.
Clear the decks and hope for safe seas. LOL.
Teri
July 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@Chris your grasp of history like most amerikans is either conveniently selective or simply deficient. The Black Panther Party was not begging for anything. By the time they were targeted for destruction by the u.s. government and its police apparatus they were operating free breakfast programs (the origin of such programs in public schools by the way), free health clinics (dr.’s and nurses donating their time. way ahead of their time again in offering free health care to all), food and clothing drives and operating independent schools. These programs had to run and operated with the fingers of one hand wrapped around a gun..since police and fbi agents were not averse to shooting randomly into Panther store fronts housing such programs. So your call to do for ourselves is no call at all we have ALWAYS attempted to do that. whether in Rosewoon, Florida or Tulsa, Oklahoma ie Black Wall Street..it has been whites who in their hatred have destroyed such efforts. Please better inform yourself if you are honestly interested in having a discussion of these issues. These now cliche charges from people like you are tiresome and pointless.
Carol Lee
July 6, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Teri:
You are a little off on the Panthers. They are/were a vile group who basically demanded you follow their rule or get out of the way. My father tried for years to integrate the services provided by the church with the Panthers agenda but it got so bad he could not handle working with them. He was physically assaulted at one point because he asked to tone down the rhetoric. They spoke hate and violence and recieved it back from those they challenged. They are bad for our community. Not to say whites are good, but the panthers will always bring violence back to our communities unless they rid themselves of the hate..
Mau
July 6, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Ok FBI Agent Provoceteur, I’ll suffer you 1 more time. BTW, the pay for coming onto black sites must pay well as I see your kind infests anywhere black people congregate online. As far as copying and pasting the BP 10 pt plan, I am guilty. What’s sad is that the ‘demands’ are still just as prescient today as they were when written originally in 1966. Ain’t much changed. Another fact: black people own the same % of amerikan wealth as they did when blacks were ostensibly ‘freed’ from slavery. And since you want to mis-represent history (of course that’s what you’re paid to do) riddle me why anytime in the history of this country when black people have exhibited self-sufficiency even in the face of enormous odds, the US govt or their proxies, have consistently moved in to squash or quell those efforts? Examples: The period of Re-Construction, which saw enormous amounts of financial success and the election of more black elected representatives that at any time in the history of this country was squashed w/kkk style terrorism, a stripping of voting privileges as well as laws passed that effectively put black people back into a de jure slavery. The UNIA movement by Marcus Garvey. With all that bs talk about ‘go back to africa’–Garvey had a PLAN to do just that, replete with ships with which to do it & pray tell what was the US govt’s response? Trumped up mail fraud charges that resulted in Garvey’s deportation back to his native Jamaica. You would think as much as you ignorant racist shills (btw the people who actually RUN this insane asylum don’t give a d**n about your a*s either–you are just a useful idiot)love to go on about blacks leaving and going back the way we came (of course you ignore the small glaring fact of international kidnap–blacks are NOT like everybody else up in this titanic of a country–we were forced into the hull of the titanic & have for the most part—with a few much hyped up exceptions—remained in the hull of this ship bound for h**l ever since)–there are plenty other similar historical narratives, like the 1921 bombing of Tulsa’s Black Wall Street (which was home to more black multi-millionairs than anywhere else in the world at that time); the Rosewood, Florida, massacre–same m.o. as Tulsa; the FBI’s Co-INTELPRO and it’s murderous destruction of domestic liberation movements, while the CIA was busy with it’s own covert operations to de-stabilize & neutralize liberaton movements amongst those on the african continent—this very short list of historical factoids prove that the LAST thing the US govt REALLY wants is a self-sufficient and strong black nation within it’s bowels or ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET for that matter. That scares them more than you can imagine. In the same way ANY oppressor fears the organized, focused efforts of the oppressed to free themselves. The US empire is no different. They need us to be divided, scattered, brainwashed, diseased, self-loathing, distracted by bs, compliant & suppliant. In short–the walking dead. And that goes for both people of color AND working class whites. With current events as they are, working and middle-class whites have seen themselves ‘niggardized’ & you can tell they are horrified. Visit any site devoted to politics & the fear is palpable.The truth is if the majority of the populace really believe the oft-spewed bile that black people are ‘innately inferior’ and have not or cannot ever be self-sufficient and lack the basics that would enable us to succeed; then why is history seemingly full of instances of what appear to be both an overt & covert ‘official’ agenda by the US govt & it’s proxies to sabotage any effort by ANYONE, acting as an individual, group,entity or nation(Gadafi most recently)when they act on behalf of the masses of black people to make inroads to do EXACTLY the opposite of that? It’s counter-intuitive. Why mount a counter-offense like CO-INTELPRO & bio-warfare pogroms like Tuskegee, AIDS and the like, if blacks are inherently inferior and headed for the dust-bin of huemanity? Superiority speaks for itself. It shouldn’t need covert activity or propaganda or bio-warfare or dirty trix like Co-INTELPRO or the mis-nomered ‘war on drugs’,incarceration rates of non-violent black & brown offenders that are the highest IN THE WORLD (this curiously wasn’t the case BEFORE the civil rights movement), the CIA’s flooding of ghettos w/crack-cocaine, etc,etc…what these tactics point to is instead a profound sense of insecurity and fear–which I believe Dr. Welsing masterfully diagnosed & expounded upon in the Isis Papers. So spare me the insincere, affected ‘superior’ patronizing sermon. You don’t even have the conviction of your stated beliefs. You are simply a ‘hired gun’ who gets paid to do what you do. What normal, sane white person lurks or loiters on a site geared specifically to blacks? You won’t see us hanging out on storm front but then, the FBI wouldn’t be paying us to harass you & it’s pretty much known they have co-opted the white supremacist movement as their own personal ‘goon squad’. Both in the Virtual & real world. You ain’t foolin’ nobody. Unlike you I KNOW who I am and by extension who my people are. Not what we are called, nor what the world tries to dictate our place to be–but what we ARE,have always been and will ALWAYS be—the first and therefore the purest expression of God. And that which has been ordained by God; not by those who suffer from a ‘God complex’.
Chris Gibbs
July 7, 2012 at 8:48 am
MAU:
Your post gave me a headache; could be your rant or the coronas yesterday after docking the boat. You are definitely wasting your time on this site. Your writing of covert infiltration and government corruption would sell millions of books if you learn to write more coherently.
As for my FBI status, sorry, but you are wrong. I stumbled onto this pool of racist slime by accident. I was reading ESPN when I saw an article by Watkins describing the racism Arizona State University (ASU) was perpetrating by encouraging the fans to wear black at the 1st home game with their new “tougher” looking black uniforms. Apparently, he decided to call a racist foul based on a picture that included 3 college girls with “black-face” makeup to go along with the blackout theme of the night. After denouncing ASU, its students and the state AZ, turns out one of the girls was actually black. As a former student of ASU, this struck me as funny stuff and the more I read, the more entertaining it was. Anyways, I have been hooked ever since. I will occasionally browse with my wife and just laugh at the lunatics like Derrick who rant, rave, and try their best to bring out their inner Malcolm. I take umbrage with being labeled a devil and how fools on this site will overlook personal responsibility just because a person is black. Not matter how bad a black person behaves, you fools blame it on whites, the government corruption or anything convenient instead of holding an individual responsible for his actions. So…I get humor out of reading this. Sorry if that blows your FBI corruption story. I “troll” this site because you guys are funny…. Chris Rock funny.
What’s even funnier is I still get slammed even though I agree there were heinous crimes committed in US history. I agree it has had a trickle down effect on the today’s black society. I agree something should be done to help the current situation. I only try to hold individuals responsible for their own actions, but because I am white, I am automatically a racist. People don’t comprehend the positive; only the fact their ancestors were wronged and all white people are devils. I will get surly sometimes because it bothers me that so many blacks will denounce a white guy spouting off, but a black guy can spew racist hate and encourage rage against whites with impunity. You want justice but don’t want to be held accountable for your own actions. Cant have it both ways.
As for Garvey, I don’t need your lecture; I was the one who brought him up. I sincerely believe that those who truly despise the US should gather their resources and re-create the Black Star Line. Renounce your citizenship to this horrid, racist country and go back to Africa. With your combined assets and knowledge, you could conceivably create the utopia you desperately crave and prove to everyone your black greatness. God knows the US would be better off without your traitorous ways and hopefully those living in Africa would benefit from your teachings and superior knowledge. Grow a spine and practice what you preach – REDEEM AFRICA!
Anyways, keep up the good work. The TRUTH will give you something to rant about and I will continue to read for the free entertainment. I will post a response if I feel it necessary because it is still my right in a country that so many of you hate.
Mau
July 7, 2012 at 5:33 pm
U r still a plant & no further response is needed but hey since you’re getting paid, it’s not costing you anything but time. As far as leaving..that’s a definite plan but in the interim I’ll be like one of those slaves on the plantation who will gleefully sit and watch while the big house burns to the ground and pray for a strong gust of wind. lol…
Teri
July 6, 2012 at 6:22 pm
yes sir Mau!! we are long overdue in picking up the torch ignited by Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X and the Black Panther Party. Once you understand the unemployment rate among our people and the appalling disparity of wealth between yt and us we have no other choice. everyday we delay is just a guarentee that more of will fall victim to this system. Excellent post god!
Mau
July 6, 2012 at 10:36 pm
what is it about the criminally insane that they don’t even bother to update/upgrade their tired a*s tactics? FBI u need to update your methodology. But then again, who ever accused the criminally insane of being innovators? You are using someone else’s ingenuity and act like it’s yours. Any mindless shill can follow. And btw, only cowardly b*****s hide in the shadows and pretend to be brave. If you are that infallible, come out and show yourself. This above all proves that fear rules you. Just know that karma cannot be outrun, bribed, manipulated, strong-armed, outgunned or mis-directed. Why the US feels that in the history of the universe they will be the 1st and only empire to escape punishment is beyond me?
Rasheed7
July 5, 2012 at 3:01 pm
America is pretty good in many ways…… But this American Culture is intertwined with white supremacy and racism.. Our culture is racist and violent. Chris Rock is truly a sarcastic m**o, so plenty of people will be upset at his words… but his words are a reminder of the PURE POISON that nationalism and blind flag waiving can be.
We are in the midst of a huge battle for the future identity of this country and certain white people are fighting like there is no tomorrow… Changing the textbooks in texas, taking away rights and fear mongering with everything they’ve got in order to turn back the clock and bring the days of unquestioned white privilege.
Of course we know you cannot put the genie back in the bottle, but these groups will try their best because they understand that this is their last chance for that world that they dream of…
Chris Rock is very good making sarcastic comments… Keep up the good work CR…
faundyb
July 5, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@ Franky J what exactly should the comments have looked like for this post? I will take a wild guess that you may have had a problem reading the TRUTH or perhaps you are just suprised that many african americans do indeed know their history! Covering it up in the history books, or depending on the media who are fed lines to read like the “TRUMAN SHOW”, or perhaps even having MOLES like yourself frequent a website that deals with BLACK ISSUES! I know the story very well not only from research, also from stories passed down from my great-great-great-great grandfather that was a slave YOU SCUM SUCKER, or from my african friends from AFRICA that laughed @ Americans for being happy about Obama! They have better information than you could ever had, dare we say THEY MAY BE EVEN CLOSER TO GOD THAN YOU AND YOUR HISTORY STEALERS!
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm
THAT’S THE WAY TO TALK TO THAT caucasoid devil.
They hate when a Black man speaks up to them. During our forced enslavement, they called my people; UPPITY when the enslaved brothers and sisters spoke up to them.
Today the word has been reduced to being sadity or sad.
They weren’t afraid to die or get beaten because they had PRIDE! They knew the slave makers were nothing but a bunch of weak hearted punks with guns and ropes.
“MOLES like yourself frequent a website that deals with BLACK ISSUES!”
THAT’S THE GOD IN YOU COMING OUT, WHICH IS NOTHING BUT STRENGTH AND TRUTH!
GOD IS TRUTH AND TRUTH IS GOD
IT’S THE GOD IN YOU = Mary Mary
Psalm 82:6, “I have said, Ye are gods…”
THE BLACK MESSIAH SAID THAT, I DIDN’T
Peace & Truth
Shelton
July 5, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Derrick,
You are obviously very informed-unlike a lot of our people (mainly Whites!). I wanted to know if you have any “Great Books” recommend? Any on “Black Messiah”? Thanks!
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Try these books for starters:
1) THE BLACK MESSIAH by Reverend Albert B. Cleage, Jr.
2) THE AFRICANS WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D
3) GOD: THE BLACK MAN AND TRUTH by Ben Ammi
4) THE BLACK BIBLICAL HERITAGE by John L. Johnson
5) GOD, THE BIBLE AND THE BLACK MAN’S DESTINY by Ishakamusa Barashango
6) THE BLACK PRESENCE IN THE BIBLE by RevErend Walter McCray
7) Also, check out the video: THE BLACK WOMAN IZ GOD PART 1,2,3
THESE ARE EXCELLENT RESOURCES WITH FACTS! YOU WILL FEEL LIKE A KING ONCE YOU READ THIS TRUTH
Enjoy my Brother
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Who Was Crispus Attucks?
Historians know little about Crispus Attucks, and they have constructed accounts of his life more from speculation than facts. Most documents described his ancestry as African and American Indian. His father, Prince Yonger, is thought to have been a slave brought to America from Africa and that his mother, Nancy Attucks, was a Natick Indian. The family, which may have included an older sister named Phebe, lived in Framingham, Massachusetts.
Apparently, young Attucks developed a longing for freedom at an early age. According to The Black Presence in the Era of the American Revolution, historians believe that an advertisement placed in the Boston Gazette on October 2, 1750, referred to him:
“Ran away from his Master William Brown from Framingham, on the 30th of Sept. last, a Molatto Fellow, about 27 Years of age, named Crispas, 6 Feet two Inches high, short curl’d Hair, his Knees nearer together than common: had on a light colour’d Bearskin Coat.”
The owner offered a reward of ten pounds for the return of the slave and warned ship captains against giving him refuge. Biographers believe that Attucks escaped to Nantucket, Massachusetts, and sailed as a harpooner on a whaling ship. Some writers proposed that he was using the name Michael Johnson.
Attucks’ occupation made him particularly vulnerable to the presence of the British. As a seaman, he felt the ever-present danger of impressment into the British navy. As a laborer, he felt the competition from British troops, who often took part-time jobs during their off-duty hours and worked for lower wages. Historians definitely place Attucks in Boston in March of 1770. Assuming that the Boston Gazette advertisement did refer to him, he would have been about 47-years old.
A fight between Boston rope makers and three British soldiers on Friday, March 2, 1770 set the stage for a later confrontation. After dusk on Monday, March 5, 1770, a crowd of colonists confronted a sentry who had struck a boy for complaining that an officer was late in paying a barber bill. As anger escalated, a church bell rang, which drew people out of their homes. The British soldiers of the 29th Regiment of Foot were called to duty. In turn, townspeople responded by hurling snowballs and debris at the soldiers. A group of men led by Attucks approached the vicinity of the government building with clubs in hand. Violence soon erupted, and a soldier was struck with a thrown piece of wood. Some accounts named Attucks as the person responsible. Other witnesses stated that Attucks was “leaning upon a stick” when the soldiers opened fire.
Five Americans were killed and six were wounded in what came to be called the Boston Massacre. Attucks was the first one killed; he took two bullets in the chest. Rope maker Samuel Gray and sailor James Caldwell also died in the incident. Samuel Maverick, a 17-year-old joiner’s apprentice, died the next day. Irish leather worker Patrick Carr died nine days later. Attucks’ body was carried to Faneuil Hall, where it lay in state until Thursday, March 8, when he and the other victims were buried together.
Martin Luther King, Jr., referred to Crispus Attucks in the introduction of Why We Can’t Wait (1964) as an example of a man whose contribution to history, though much-overlooked by standard histories, provided a potent message of moral courage.
In an unsourced book that appealed to a wide audience, James Neyland wrote his appraisal of Attucks’s significance:
He is one of the most important figures in African-American history, not for what he did for his own race but for what he did for all oppressed people everywhere. He is a reminder that the African-American heritage is not only African but American and it is a heritage that begins with the beginning of America.
Crispus Attucks became the first casualty of the American Revolution when he was shot and killed. Although Attucks was credited as the leader and instigator of the event, debate raged for over a century as to whether he was a hero and a patriot, or a rabble-rousing villain. The debate notwithstanding, Attucks, immortalized as “the first to defy, the first to die,” has been lauded as a true martyr, “the first to pour out his blood as a precious libation on the altar of a people’s rights.”
THERE’S THE TRUTH LITTLE DUDE. YOU CAUCASOIDS NEVER WANT TO SEE A BLACK MAN, AS A HERO, MARTYR, SOLDIER OR NUMBER ONE. TAKE THAT LIE DOWN ABOUT HIM ABANDONING HIS FAMILY BECAUSE THAT’S A NASTY, FILTHY, DIRTY, TRIFLING CAUCASOID LIE!!!!!!!!
I COME WITH FACTS AND TRUTH, YOU COME WITH RANTS AND LIES.
Sources: AFRICAWITHINDOTCOME
Battleshipbill
July 5, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Please play vicim more… A child does a better job.
DaTruth
July 5, 2012 at 8:50 pm
@Battleshipbill:
Well,where r ur facts to refute what he says?
Truth be spoken
July 5, 2012 at 11:07 am
When someone offers up truth the opposition has no better arguement against it so they try to discredit the messenger of that truth.If Chris Rock made trillions of dollars in this country it’s still a true statement even if it does offend white people.Black people are always being told to forget about slavery it’s in the past.Truth is we still suffer the effects of systemic racism in this country.I never here anyone telling the jew-ISH people to forget about the holocaust it’s in the past.Our story starts long before slavery but we shall never forget or be doomed to repeat it.
DaTruth
July 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Yes that is always the way isn’t it, to make the victim the culprit. No greater truths have been spoken, Truth be spoken!
Spencer
July 5, 2012 at 8:44 am
I’ve said the same thing for years, the fourth of July means absolutely nothing for blacks. In fact, what Chris Rock says is surely nothing new, Frederick Douglass said, “This Fourth of July is yours, not mine” in a speech entitled, “”What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?” http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm
DJ Fyr3
July 5, 2012 at 8:34 am
From a washington post blogger
“Okay, I’ll take the bait. A few people have passed on a tweet from comedian and actor Chris Rock, who celebrated the Fourth with this bit of wisdom: “Happy white peoples independence day. The slaves weren’t free but I’m sure they enjoyed fireworks.”
It’s an argument familiar to those of us who attended an American university in the last 25 years: Ours is a history of unalloyed awfulness hardly worthy of exaltation.
So a few points before I return to racist flag-waving and un-American burger-eating: It’s undeniably the case that, in the short term, America’s liberation from its colonial masters was a largely meaningless event for those held in bondage. And while it’s also undeniable that it would be a depressing span of time before African Americans would experience the same measure of freedom as their former masters (one cannot, of course, use 1865 as a starting point), it’s astoundingly silly to think that the celebration of America’s founding is simply a celebration of the customs and mores contemporaneous to the revolution.
Indeed, there are few countries whose recent history isn’t sullied by some lamentable combination of bigotry, racism, imperialism and war. And perhaps it’s too obvious a point, but the country that evolved from that revolution has been rather generous to Rock. I would hope that Rock could find something to celebrate in a country that made him a very wealthy, influential man, that’s imperfect but nevertheless elected an African American commander in chief, and that has countless other unique achievements besides.
So a question for Rock: Should the shortcomings of America, the blemishes on our past — which are numerous, but acknowledged, investigated and debated — always outweigh its great achievements? Would he consider celebratory parades commemorating America’s role in World War II worthy of scorn because of segregation in the armed forces, the relocation of Japanese Americans, the bombing of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki (actually, some would doubtless say yes)? Rock would have a stronger point if current American school books, government officials and media whitewashed our past and refused to reckon with slavery’s legacy. But in my experience, the opposite is true. Both in high school and college, I was taught the Howard Zinn version of history, which goes well beyond confronting America’s problematic past to viewing it as a permanent feature of American democratic capitalism.
These are broad points, and there is plenty more one could say about the “America’s rocky history means America shouldn’t be celebrated” school of thought. So return to the barbeque and the beers, and we can debate the finer points of the founding of this country later, in the comments section below.”
I couldn’t agree more and hope you all feel the same. America has it’s past flaws but the country is great and ever living and evolving.
Teri
July 6, 2012 at 8:12 am
Check That alarm clock and wake up.
Franky J
July 5, 2012 at 8:29 am
The comments here are absolutely pathetic.
Grob Hahn
July 5, 2012 at 1:15 pm
And deeply racist as well. In 1776 there were still white slaves in America too. You can’t judge history by today’s rules. Doing so turns you into an ignorant fanatic.
And fighting all that evil old white racism with racism of your own, it moronic.
Grobbbbbbbbbbb
Battleshipbill
July 5, 2012 at 8:17 am
This was a poor choice by Chris rock, Independence day is about celebrating birth of America, the great nation that we have become, to be thankful for our freedoms (just as you all post your opinions here) and to honor those who serve us.
Chris Rock will forever be remembered by this and is ill fated attempt to try and put a murmur on a great American holiday.
This guy has no idea what slavery is about nor do any of us. Race baiting is WAY TO EASY and it’s a tool used by the simple minded. How many people are respected for race baiting these days? Name one? All it does is paint some one into a corner.
He is so far removed from reality he doesn’t see black or white, he see’s GREEN.
Anybody who thinks this guy isn’t out for himself has a lot more faith in a stranger they’ve never met than I would. This is a guy that’s gone off the deep-end disappeared for years and get this, makes millions saying outrageous things.
He isn’t educated more so than you or nor is he qualified to be leader let alone be around KIDS.
He’s a disgrace to this country now.
DaTruth
July 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm
@Battleshipbill:
So its racebaiting to tell the truth? What did he say that was wrong? Pls expound! Just becuz u choose to revise history to erase the atrocities that were visited on African Americans by whites for over 400 yrs. “This guy has no idea what slavery is about nor do any of us”. What a preposterous stmt! Their is much n the history books re slavery, & it is clear that u know nothing of it becuz u choose to forget ur race’s sordid history. Well Im sorry, but their r many who have not forgotten & should not ever forget! Those who choose to forget wrongs n history r condemned to repeat it, & the wrongs cont. & have never ceased (i.e., mass incarceration of blks & browns).
Teri
July 6, 2012 at 7:17 am
It is indeed almost comical to consider the level of mendacity that consumes nearly evey thought you have about america. even the acceptance of a small glimmer of historical truth has you in a rant against any who might acknowledge that truth. In all your “intelligence” in the end the best you can muster as a solution is for Black people to sail themselves “back to Africa”. This too is typical. Like your simple minded attempt at deflection of blame for the transatlantic slave trade back onto its victims leaving even a mention of the white perpetrators and architects of this diabolical crime against humanity even in your questions and “solutions” to the problems confronting black people you attempt to leave yourself i.e white people out of the equation. Lol really battleshipbill ? do you really think the questions and solutions to the issues of race and economic justice will be that easy for you ? So chris rock was “ill advised” to “sully the current day greatness of america” by daring to bring up its “historical shortcomings” by pointing out that no conscious thinking black person should join in white americas celebration of the 4th of july since our ancestors remained in the most inhuman condition of chattel slavery for over 100 years after this historical event?? And rock who is wealthy is showing his “ungratefulness” and engaging in “pointless race baiting”? This is as absurd as bringing up the one African who escaped slavery as a reason black people should proudly join in the festivities. I know you didn’t make that comment but you did make an equally ridiculous suggestion ..that the current “greatness” of america “trumps” any convoluted trek back to its admitted sullied past. Really? Lets take a look at the condition of black people in the “enlightened” present:
The latest Census Bureau figures show that the median white household is now 22 times more wealthy than Black households. White families are worth more than $110,000, compared to just under $5,000 for Blacks. The gap has widened, since 2009, when whites registered only 20 times more wealth than Blacks. The State of the Dream Report for that year described Blacks as experiencing a kind of “Silent Depression” – one that is “unnoticed, unacknowledged and unaddressed – and yet the evidence is striking.” Back then, more than three years ago, 30 percent of African American households had no wealth at all, or negative wealth, less than nothing, and the gap between Black and white incomes was proportionately larger than it was back in 1968, the year Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated.
There is no escaping the truth battleshipbill and no way for you to avoid having to answer for its past or present.
sandra massie hines
July 5, 2012 at 7:19 am
Yvette Carnel, Chris Rock could not be more right than he is. My interest in celebrating the 4th has nothing to do with why whites celebrate Independence. My independence cebration began, with an innocent Lamb, profoundly nailed to a tree, between two robbers, after He had taken 39 lashes for my sins. At the death of that innocent, blameless Lamb, a curtain tore in twain, so that the Spirit of the Living God, was sent to live in men. Blacks initial freedom came with a price too high for any man to pay. It was freely given. We celebrate the gift within us that grants us peace during times of oppression, racial hatred and turmoil. That peace in us is what our enemies have tried to take from us for years. All the beatings, hangings, murders and rapes whites committed, not even the shame we suffered from dog bites, water hoses or calling us n~~~~~ words, could make us bitter or stop us from being kind to those who, even today, “hate us”. We exchage the evil done to us with good. That’s reason to celebrate our freedom.
tee
July 5, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Thank you for your intelligent, Godly comment, may the good Lord bless you beyond your imagination. God bless you.
David Kidd
July 5, 2012 at 6:48 am
To Tweet #1 Crispus Attucks was a run away slave.He left his family behind.
Chris Gibbs
July 5, 2012 at 11:56 am
So Crispus Attucks started the trend of the american black man abandoning his family for something better? See ya, wouldnt want to be ya!
Rodney King and Crispus Attucks – Real American Black Heros. No wonder Derrick is messed up in the head.
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Who Was Crispus Attucks?
Historians know little about Crispus Attucks, and they have constructed accounts of his life more from speculation than facts. Most documents described his ancestry as African and American Indian. His father, Prince Yonger, is thought to have been a slave brought to America from Africa and that his mother, Nancy Attucks, was a Natick Indian. The family, which may have included an older sister named Phebe, lived in Framingham, Massachusetts.
Apparently, young Attucks developed a longing for freedom at an early age. According to The Black Presence in the Era of the American Revolution, historians believe that an advertisement placed in the Boston Gazette on October 2, 1750, referred to him:
“Ran away from his Master William Brown from Framingham, on the 30th of Sept. last, a Molatto Fellow, about 27 Years of age, named Crispas, 6 Feet two Inches high, short curl’d Hair, his Knees nearer together than common: had on a light colour’d Bearskin Coat.”
The owner offered a reward of ten pounds for the return of the slave and warned ship captains against giving him refuge. Biographers believe that Attucks escaped to Nantucket, Massachusetts, and sailed as a harpooner on a whaling ship. Some writers proposed that he was using the name Michael Johnson.
Attucks’ occupation made him particularly vulnerable to the presence of the British. As a seaman, he felt the ever-present danger of impressment into the British navy. As a laborer, he felt the competition from British troops, who often took part-time jobs during their off-duty hours and worked for lower wages. Historians definitely place Attucks in Boston in March of 1770. Assuming that the Boston Gazette advertisement did refer to him, he would have been about 47-years old.
A fight between Boston rope makers and three British soldiers on Friday, March 2, 1770 set the stage for a later confrontation. After dusk on Monday, March 5, 1770, a crowd of colonists confronted a sentry who had struck a boy for complaining that an officer was late in paying a barber bill. As anger escalated, a church bell rang, which drew people out of their homes. The British soldiers of the 29th Regiment of Foot were called to duty. In turn, townspeople responded by hurling snowballs and debris at the soldiers. A group of men led by Attucks approached the vicinity of the government building with clubs in hand. Violence soon erupted, and a soldier was struck with a thrown piece of wood. Some accounts named Attucks as the person responsible. Other witnesses stated that Attucks was “leaning upon a stick” when the soldiers opened fire.
Five Americans were killed and six were wounded in what came to be called the Boston Massacre. Attucks was the first one killed; he took two bullets in the chest. Rope maker Samuel Gray and sailor James Caldwell also died in the incident. Samuel Maverick, a 17-year-old joiner’s apprentice, died the next day. Irish leather worker Patrick Carr died nine days later. Attucks’ body was carried to Faneuil Hall, where it lay in state until Thursday, March 8, when he and the other victims were buried together.
Martin Luther King, Jr., referred to Crispus Attucks in the introduction of Why We Can’t Wait (1964) as an example of a man whose contribution to history, though much-overlooked by standard histories, provided a potent message of moral courage.
In an unsourced book that appealed to a wide audience, James Neyland wrote his appraisal of Attucks’s significance:
He is one of the most important figures in African-American history, not for what he did for his own race but for what he did for all oppressed people everywhere. He is a reminder that the African-American heritage is not only African but American and it is a heritage that begins with the beginning of America.
Crispus Attucks became the first casualty of the American Revolution when he was shot and killed. Although Attucks was credited as the leader and instigator of the event, debate raged for over a century as to whether he was a hero and a patriot, or a rabble-rousing villain. The debate notwithstanding, Attucks, immortalized as “the first to defy, the first to die,” has been lauded as a true martyr, “the first to pour out his blood as a precious libation on the altar of a people’s rights.”
THERE’S THE TRUTH LITTLE DUDE. YOU CAUCASOIDS NEVER WANT TO SEE A BLACK MAN, AS A HERO, MARTYR, SOLDIER OR NUMBER ONE. TAKE THAT LIE DOWN ABOUT HIM ABANDONING HIS FAMILY BECAUSE THAT’S A NASTY, FILTHY, DIRTY, TRIFLING CAUCASOID LIE!!!!!!!!
I COME WITH FACTS AND TRUTH, YOU COME WITH RANTS AND LIES.
Sources: http://www.africawithin.com/bios/crispus_attucks.htm and http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part2/2p24.html
faundyb
July 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm
@ Chris you sound as if the truth is what is written in the history books! It is a pathetic attempt to erase what African American’s have gone through for over 400 years! It is the truth and it is still bad today jail/prisons, welfare/foodstamps, poor education in the inner cities, GUNS & DRUGS!! WHERE THE h**l ARE THE GUNS & DRUGS STILL COMING FROM?? IT IS ALL A PLAN POPULATION CONTROL, BRAINWASHING, & INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU SPREADING THE “BLACK PEOPLE SOLD THEIR PEOPLE TO SLAVE OWNERS” BULL s**t! GOD WILL JUDGE ALL OF YOU LYING SERPENTS & I AM SURE YOU LOOK JUST LIKE A DEMON OF SATAN!!
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@faundyb: Good Truth! But, you must overstand that their god is the devil or satan. This is why they capitalize these words becasue it gives them power and authority over Black people.
The Black Messiah is the True God, who walked the Earth, not some unknown creature up in ‘heaven.’ These are fairytales. If this god sees all that is happening to Black people on this Earth; where is he/she?
Pslam 82:6 reads, “I have said, Ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.” Once we start treating ourselves as gods, which is with peace and unity, like we did before we became enslaved, we will NEVER unite.
WE ARE GODS CHOSEN! THESE IGNORANT devils KNOW THAT WE SPEAK THE TRUTH, THEY ARE HERE TO TRY TO KEEP US DIVIDED.
faundyb
July 5, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@ Derrick I totally agree & I would like to thank you of some of the comments you posted because it has reminded me of some things I had heard of, however I am going to do some more reading to pass this information to my sons. I was raised methodist, and until recently I have been disgusted @ how much “praise” was given to the catholic religion/ pope. The devil is a liar & surely knows the bible. He is very crafty & it has become increasingly easy to spot out satan’s followers. I pray that God will handle these corrupted human beings & continue to bless those of us that respect the truth. Have a blessed day & keep spreading the truth
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 3:11 pm
My brother; not only is the catholic religion demonic, ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME!
You can commit sin from Monday-Saturday, but on Sun-day you can confess your sins to ‘god’ and everything will be alright until next sunday. What kind of religion is that?
Now, the xtian religions called baptist, methodist and full gospel, etc., have the same pedophiles, rapist, liars, cheaters and haters in their pulpits spreading LIES for their materialistic deeds.
All of those catholic pedophiles (priest & popes) paid to stay out of jail, but these Black preachas are front page news when they commit wickedness on their own kind.
ALL religions are man-made and everyday, a conscious thinker can look into this game called xtianity. PoliTRICKS and religion are the two biggest GAMES on the planet. There was a time when religion was not mentioned during election time. Now, it’s one of the main things discussed in the media.
My brother, I used to go to church, but after I learned to THINK FOR MYSELF, I cut that entertainment center aka church, out of my schedule. Nothing in these buildings except for HATERS, HEATHENS AND HYPOCRITES. From the pulpit to the pews; from the pews down to the basement; nothing but jealous hearted negroes in the church, including the preacha.
Read and research for yourself and teach your children the Truth. They will respect you more because you will be teaching them the Truth. Also, let them know the Blackness of the Black Messiah.
Acts 10:39 reads, “And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree”…
We have been lied to ALL of our lives to beLIEve that the Black Messiah was hung on a ‘cross’ but it was a tree. As a matter of Truth, tree hanging began with the white gentiles and false ‘jews’.
DIDNT THEY HANG OUR PEOPLE DURING OUR FORCED ENSLAVEMENT?
coast cooker
July 6, 2012 at 9:39 am
Derrick i agree with you.You are on the ball.I can deal with a man that think’s like I do..
Mau
July 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm
No, that would have been the 1st white slave owner that raped a female african slave which resulted in a black baby he undoubtedly treated as another piece of property. THAT would have been the 1st deadbeat dad of a black american!
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I see you are another dumbazz, who doesn’t know his True Ourstory.
Read the article on on this brother and learn some Truth!
NO WONDER NEGROES DON’T KNOW, WHO THEY ARE…THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO BElieVE YOUR LIES FROM KINDERGARTEN THRUOGH COLLEGE!
YOUR FOREFATHERS ABANDONED THEIR CHILDREN WHEN THEY RAPED BLACK WOMEN DURING OUR FORCED ENSLAVEMENT. THEY IMPREGNATED 100,000′s OF BLACK WOMEN FOR THEIR ECONOMIC SURVIVAL.
CAUCASOID MALES…THE REAL DEAD BEAT BEASTS
Battleshipbill
July 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Take responsibility for YOURSELF. it isn;t some one else’s fault you choose to be a MORON.
Its like you are a child, blaming the world for your problems.
GROW UP and ACT LIKE AND ADULT.
mavrek
July 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Why do we as a people have to explain anything to white Americans? We don’t owe you guys anything and you don’t know what it is we need to do to help ourselves. Cause you use terms like “race card” or “whining” dosent make anything less valid, that’s a cop out. So racism doesn’t happen here in America? America wasn’t built on racist principles? All that c**p about doing for ourselves is true, we should but remember Medger? Malcom? Black Panthers? All these people are examples of doing it for ourselves and the white power structure made sure it didn’t last. We tried all the peaceful ways and you don’t wanna see the alternative. Complaing? Really? I apologize if losing our culture and having our identity from us offends you. Not celebrating a holiday that wasn’t intended for us to celebrate is doing for ourselves, its time we take back our dignity and do what’s best for us and not what white people “think” is best for us.
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 7:56 am
@Coast Cooker: Appreciate the love! I’m glad you acknowledge the Truth. We need more soldiers like you, who ain’t scared to speak the Truth!
KEEP IT COMING!
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 6:34 am
All over the globe, caucasoids CAN’T STAND THE TRUTH!
They live in a fantasy world of equality, but Blacks have never been treated fairly in this racist country…NEVER!
I find caucasoids amazing because they talk all this ‘colorblind’ b.s., but when it comes to the Truth and Black people, they start ‘SEEING’ things in a different picture.
Isn’t it funny, how they can go bake in the sun, catch skin cancer, blisters and burn just to get some ‘COLOR’? When they turn brown, they are complimented on how good they look, BUT Black people are discriminated against, beaten and murdered JUST BECAUSE WE ARE BLACK!!!
THESE SERPENTS CAN’T STAND THE TRUTH, BUT THEY WILL ALWAYS AGREE WITH A LIE, ESPECIALLY IF IT COMES FROM ANOTHER CAUCASOID.
Our enslaved brothers and sisters were working on the plantations and cotton fields on the 4th of JEW-LIE, and still ain’t got no g*****n freedom!!!
Peace & Truth
Battleshipbill
July 5, 2012 at 8:20 am
Derrick.
Please think about some english classes soon. You need help.
http://www.els.edu/en/EnglishPrograms
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 10:23 am
Hey battlehead, I received an A in my college english class. As a matter of Truth, I’m holding down a B grade point average. So, what’s your point little cat?
YOU NO SPEAK ENGLISH? LOL
GET THE h**l OUTTA HERE DUMB AZZ
Battleshipbill
July 5, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Then use your knowledge and quit perpetuating the stereotype. In laymen’s terms. Quit acting like an internet tool bag.
science
July 5, 2012 at 8:43 pm
derrick writing looks ok to me sounds like the message bit your a*s lol
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 7:43 am
Good looking out, Science!
When you deal with ignorant caucasoids, what else do you expect to come from their FORKED TONGUES?
When negroes wake up and overstand, that caucasoids are the most dumbest serpents on the planet, then perhapes they’ll stop imitating them.
Peace to You!
JB
July 9, 2012 at 11:17 am
His point was made let not get all prissy Bout words that may or not be in context or syntaxmay or may not be grammatically CORRECT he made his point in the best lite he could so dispense with the suggestion of English CLasses. After years of research, and consideration of the whole of recorded time, we regret to say that by any measure humanity, taken as a large group is pretty fked up or in Latin gullibalous rapacious enslavementosis. Put quite simply it means that large groups of humans organized into “societies” or : civilizations “ as they are somewhat humorously called, are stupid , they were stupid a long time ago and they are still stupid today given the humans brains obvious capacity for learning , and the evidence of the developmental of individual intelligence, it came as a bit of a shock to discover that as a community humans are really, really dumb, you see we are collectively the same morons now as we were 10,000 yrs ago some get the double or triple moron title. I ask people which one are you I already know what Title I am, and may I add, people are I’m sad to say are as thick as feces or in Latin – maximums shitius densorium.
Chris Gibbs
July 5, 2012 at 10:03 am
Derrick:
Instead of bath-salt based rants, give me some answers and not just rhetoric. What would you do to fix the current situation for blacks across America. Its easy to hate, whine and re-hash what everyone knows (or at least think they know) happened over the last few centuries in
America. Seems all the black leaders have complaints and can point out obvious failures, but no they have no realistic answers.
What would you do to make it better?
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 11:03 am
Little dude let me answer your dumb questions?
First question: “What would you do to fix the current situation for blacks across America.”
If I could fix the current situation here in racist amerikkka, I would send you euroPEEan amerikkkans back to the caucasus mountains. You are not even indigenous to eu(rope). The ancient people, who occupied eu(rope) were the Black Grimaldi, who were Afrikans! As a matter of Truth, a Black Queen, by the name of Queen Europa ruled eu(rope) during the DARK AGES!
This is why your books call it the DARK AGES because Black people ruled and were leaders in ancient eu(rope). The word DARK AGE is a code word for BLACK RULERSHIP!
I know it’s hard for you to overstand this Truth, but just sit back in deal with it!
Second question: “What would I do to make it better.”
Answer to your 2nd dumb question. It’s not WHAT I SHOULD DO, the question should be…WHEN are you caucasoids going to change? Black people didn’t go around hanging, burning, setting terroritories on fire, raping, usurping, and killing people just because they were Black Gods! Your his-story is one of corruption and wars. So, when are you people, going to change?
WE WERE A PEACEFUL PEOPLE, WHO WERE MINDING OUR OWN BUSINESS AND LAND, UNTIL YOU THIEVES CAME ALONG. I REPEAT: When are you people, going to change?
It’s amazing how you caucasoids always call the Truth a ‘rant’. I know it’s hard for you people to overstand the Truth, but go read some of OURSTORY instead of your his-story or his-lie…you’ll learn something.
You know that I speak the Truth about you demons and devils, but you just want to keep negroes in a submissive docile state of mind. I AIN’T THE ONE!If you want to do anything constructive get the h**l outta here!
Any more quesions?
Chris Gibbs
July 5, 2012 at 11:44 am
Derrick:
No more questions. Your idiocy pretty much answered all my questions. You are in line as the perfect leader of black whiners – No real answers just complaints.
As always, blacks were a peaceful, african people until the whites came and mucked it up, blah, blah, blah. No mentioning that your own great uncle roped and bagged your family before selling them to the highest bidder 400 years ago. Its just whitey’s fault. Nuf said.
I say start your own version of the Black Star Line, with Chris Rock’s money, and send the ones who want to go back to Africa back. You can be the modern day Marcus Garvey. With all your truth and knowledge, I am certain you can turn Somolia into a thriving uptopia on the way to redeeming Africa. Later you can travel to South Africa and chop up a white farmer. Good times….
Derrick
July 5, 2012 at 12:10 pm
p**s, I mean chris, don’t try to insult me with your stupidity…it ain’t gonna work.
You caucasoids wouldn’t overstand the Truth if you knew it was the Truth (lol). Anyway, I laugh when you caucasoids speak of us selling our own people.
Little dude, if you read some of my other post, it was you caucasoids, who enslaved each other FIRST! Go back to the early 1400′s in eu(rope).
CHECK THIS TRUTH OUT: THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY A REAL AFRIKAN BROTHER, SO YOU KNOW HE WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH
AFRICANS DID NOT SELL THEIR OWN PEOPLE INTO SLAVERY
I read an article online today and I was shocked to read so many people believe Africans just sold their own into slavery just like that. I wanted to comment on the article, but the comment section had been disabled so I couldn’t comment that is why I am making this post to let people know that Africans weren’t that stupid to have sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery. ,
We were stupid to have allowed the white strangers into our land in the first place but we weren’t that stupid to have sold our own brothers and sisters into slavery just like that. We allowed the white strangers into our land because they said they “come in peace”.
According to my grandfather, In those days when there was no Christianity and no modern day government system in Africa, Kings, Queens, and other traditional rulers ruled their kingdoms as heads of states and judged cases according to the rules and regulations of the land. Those who disobeyed the laws of the land were punished and those who obeyed and sacrificed for the land were rewarded accordingly.
Although every land had some prison facilities, those prisons weren’t meant for large groups of criminals so those who killed were killed. Those who stole paid dearly for it. Those who slept with people’s wives were banished from the land. Children who disobeyed elders were punished accordingly. And so on.
My country Ghana in West Africa was a major Slave Trade Post (Headquarters) where slaves from different parts of Africa were brought and arranged before shipping abroad.
When the White strangers first came to Africa, we were not sure about their intentions so most communities drove them away from their lands but the White strangers managed to convince some of our traditional rulers that they had not come to cause any harm but just to preach the good news and to trade with the local people. Some of the local chiefs along the coast started accepting the White strangers by giving them a place to stay.
The White strangers started building missionary centers where they stayed and preached the gospel and also traded with the local people. But they later on expanded those missionary centers into forts and castles where they packed slaves before shipping them abroad.
The white strangers did not understand the local language and the local people did not understand a word the white strangers were saying so it made communication very difficult. Because of that the white strangers went to the local rulers and asked the local rulers to give them some of the local people to train so they can speak the foreign language which would make communication easier but none of those local rulers were ready to give their people out to go stay with those white strangers.
Later on some of the local rulers came up with an idea that, instead of killing those who killed, they could actually give those criminals to the white strangers so the white strangers could preach the gospel to them and also train them in the foreign language in order to aid communication which is better than killing those criminals. So those traditional rulers gave these criminals out to the white strangers and to show appreciation, those white strangers gave gifts like bottles of wine, mirrors, etc. to the traditional rulers. That was how the white strangers got their first “local servers”.
So those local people lived and served the white strangers in the castles and forts and learned the foreign language which enabled them translate the local language for the white strangers and the foreign language to the local people. This helped a lot in communication.
Those local people living with the white strangers served and worshiped them so well to the point where the white strangers began asking for more. Because of the benefits they derived from these local servers, some of the white strangers took some local servers with them on their return home. Back home (abroad) they found those local servers very useful and decided to come back for more.
They realized that if they bring more of these local servers abroad, they could use them to work on their plantation farms back home to make more money. They also realized they could sell some of these ‘local servers’ to their friends and relatives and make more money and that was why most of those white strangers returned with the intention of picking more local servers (this time around, slaves).
So, they returned for slaves but no local ruler was ready to sell his people out except those criminals I mentioned earlier on and prisoners of war (tribal wars). In my country for example, the Ashantis and those living in the interior parts of the country did not want to have anything to do with the white strangers.
In fact the first white stranger who set foot on the Ashanti empire did not return. But the white strangers needed slaves and more slaves so what they did was that, they created confusion among the various tribes so that there would be more tribal wars and more war prisoners so they could get more slaves and that was exactly what they did. As time went on, the white strangers started supplying some of the local warriors with guns to enable them wound and catch more war prisoners for them and in return the white strangers started giving those local warriors gifts to encourage them catch more prisoners of war for them.
In other words, the more tribal conflicts the white strangers created, the more slaves they got so those white strangers created even more confusion amongst tribal groups and communities. In my country for example, because the Ashanti empire was so powerful to defeat, the white strangers created so much confusion and so much wars between the Ashantis and the neighboring tribes and in some cases supplied some of those neighboring tribes with guns to enable them defeat the Ashantis.
The white strangers continued this until they were able to defeat the Ashantis and took away the King of the Ashantis (Nana Prempeh I) and the queen mother (Nana Yaa Asantewaa) and several others just to break the Ashanti Kingdom apart even after slavery so they can colonize and control the Ashanti gold,etc.
So, to conclude, we Africans did not sell our own brothers and sisters into slavery just like that. We were deceived and we were manipulated and the most painful part is that, some of my people were too blind to see which is very bad.
YOU CAUCASOID ARE THE REAL STRANGERS
Now, what; white boy?
science
July 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm
dont wast your time talking to these little people keep studying and spread that knowledge I appreciate it peace D.
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 7:46 am
Peace to You, Science. It’s good to see that you have not been brainwashed like a lot of these lost negroes in this racist country!
Keep posting the Truth, too!
JembeQueen
July 6, 2012 at 7:41 am
Derrick… if you’re from Ghana, how is it you talk like a 7%er? Black folk from the cities – you know what I’m talking about! This stuff is STRAIGHT FROM the 7 per center teachings.
That’s quite a narrative on the origins of white people. It’s so detailed you should turn it into a MocUmentary film.
Also, I live in Senegal and have read and seen a little bit of life. What I have never seen is a Ghanian write perfect American english. They were colonized by the British so their style of writing is different than ours.
Also, they are so in love with their colonizers they would never end a ‘rant’ with the phrase, white boy.
Just making an observation, not passing judgment!
Peace out!
Derrick
July 7, 2012 at 7:53 am
Nowhere on this site did I claim to be from Ghana!
Although I have friends from Ghana; they have taught me a lot about their beautiful culture and ourstory.
You will be surprised about the knowledge and ourstory, they tell me about their culture. They treated themselves as gods…in other words, they LOVED AND RESPECTED THEMSELVES.
As far as you beng from Afrika, our people are being brainwashed, just like negroes here in racist amerikkka. The fastest growing item in Afrika is BLEACHING CREAM!!!
Therefore, Afrikans have adopted the amerikkkan culture that being Black is evil!
If you knew your real ourstory; Afrikans INTRODUCED WRITING, READING, SCIENCE AND MATH TO THE WORLD!!!
DON’T HATE…ESCALATE…rise to the top!
JB
July 9, 2012 at 11:22 am
I con cur.
Marion Lamar Perryman
July 7, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Mr. Gibbs. I can tell you how to fix our promblems in a real way. first we as Native Black Americans need land, autonomy and reparations. First we need land, economic restitution called reparations and autonomy. We need our land area the American Black Belt and its related regions,
then the political autonomy/economic reparations to make ourselves into the best group of people that we can possibly be spiritually, mentally and naturally. I said autonomy, not separation for autonomy is no more than what whites, indians, hispanics, asians and other minority americans enjoy to a far greater degree than native black Americans.
The racist white separatists and the black separatists have really hurt the cause of black Americans getting our full human/civil rights as citizens of this country.
We are also our OWN TRIBE/SOCIO-ETHNIC group of people now but the race/religions thing has damaged our mentality just as bad as has done whites and other racial-ethnic groups in this country.!
MLP.
Elizabeth
July 11, 2012 at 10:42 am
Why are we constantly letting others reduce us to nothing but a color? Start using our proper race description African. We are Africans who were born in America (African-American).
“Black” is a color and one used to describe a bad situation.
We are descendants from a proud race of people, let’s claim that. As long as you speak with your tongue a negative to describe yourself that is what you will be and what future generations will claim.
Have you ever wondered why the so-called whites love to use this phrase when they speak of us, they want to continue the negativity. They don’t want us to have history and culture, other than ‘black’ and ‘slave’.
murio cruell
July 5, 2012 at 3:42 am
Wats hurting US blk folk the most is how we dwell on the past, racist b~llsh|t….that happened to our pple back in the day… as if its not the same evil hatred mess goin on rght now presents day. sad to say we gon be our worst enemy, if we choose to stay ignorant falling 4 anything, and surrendering under laws that dnt benefit us…and we just be celebrate these holidays like they really 4 us .. cause thats all we know…….
J. D. Hill
July 5, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Yes, we can beat out chests from now til eternity, and the past will never change – only the future! Let us Blacks move on into our God-given destiny. Let us learn from the past only to never repeat it, in any form! And that means that we have a lot more to do for ourselves than the White man does!
Samdromeda
July 5, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Never forget the past as it is a template for what we must change. Without it we cannot build the character that we need to enter the family of God. We must build strength in the week places and continue to set goals and achieve them. Modify what needs modified and remember…. Envy not the oppressor and choose none of his ways.
Elizabeth
July 11, 2012 at 10:31 am
Your comment is so “STUPID” until it boggles my mind. What happened to “AFRICANS” during slavery is still going on today but you can’t see it…SAD!
Tyrone Love
July 5, 2012 at 2:24 am
Good for You. Continue To Speak Truth )… I Love It…