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Ask Black America: Should Black Pastors/Leaders Embrace Anti-Religion Democrats?

The Democratic Party has completely removed the word “God” from its party platform.  The party has increased its focus on Secularism and doesn’t make much room for Christians anymore.  Given that most black leaders are also pastors, is it a contradiction that they back a party that doesn’t seem at all interested in having religion as part of it’s platform?  We asked our readers on our Your Black World Facebook page,

 

  • Shelley Wynter hel, yeah iit is but many are race pimps and self servers first so it does not matter. i find it comical to hear sharpton defend same s*x marriage on his show. it boils down to “i support this cause the president supports it and i want to keep growing my brand”
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  • Africa Leroy Jones We should be asking ourselves why are Black leaders still church based when the Black church loses relevancy every day.
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  • Michael McCoy There’s no separation of Church & State within the Black community
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  • Meta Commerse or, truth be known, in the country as a whole…not really…
  • Kathy Henry There is no place for Christian ideology in politics. The Founding Fathers made that clear in the Constitution.
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  • Michael McCoy But they had no problem invoking God in any of the founding documents either. The separation of Church & State simply means the State does not sponsor or force a religious belief upon its citizens.
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  • Gavin Richard Well, even in the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson said that men are endowed “by their Creator” so their is God in the making of this country. Still, what you believe determines how you behave so I can’t fully say that separation of church and state is a clear line.
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  • Jocelyn Angeleaux Mills I think the question to ask is why those who see themselves as such devout Christians pick and choose what they want to focus on…..I was very frustrated with the Chick-Fil-A thing….when will there be a line for liars, cheaters, fornicators, and adulterers…I am not saying that we don’t have standards but we seem to not want to apply it to ourselves, but everybody else.
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  • Gwenola Dunn Grier I heard God said at the convention at end.
  • Sagee Asante American politics have never been about religion or theology. Politics is simply a mechanism whereby deals are brokered, big business/special interests are protected & preserved, & the everday ppl are underserved and to larger extent patronized or ignored. The conscious ppl understand that america’s tag line of “in god we trust” has absolutely nothing to do with spirituality or a creator. #politics is big pimpn
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  • Pamela Brown This does NOT merit discussion!
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  • Karen Cecile Wallace In more recent history the Democratic Party became the party which allegedly stood for justice. Jesus was political and also promoted a theme of justice. Here lies the connection. As the Democratic Party moves further away from this ideology and as more African American churches do as well (e.g. prosperity theologies) I believe a shift will come where the African American church gradually eases away from the Democratic Party.
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  • Terrance L. Thomas Your theology should help shape but not dictate your politics. Your politics should NEVER shape your theology.

    TLT
    4 hours ago · Like · 3
  • Reggie Moultrie I don’t think the black church will ever separate from the Democratic Party as long as Democrats continue to stand for the underdog and downtrodden.

    The church in our community was nurtured out of slavery and a need for unity! It was a place of refuge and solidarity!

    Blacks don’t and won’t ever forget what it’s like to be treated like 3/5 of a man and a second class citizen, therefor they continue to support Democrats because they speak out against unfair treatment and inequality!

    GOD is a universal concept inherent in the church and recognized by everyone in the Democratic and Republican party!

    Taking it out of your forum doesn’t take it out of your heart or ideology!

    Black people are smart enough to recognize that, therefor there is no issue!
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  • Michael McCoy TLT, well tell that to Moral Majority and other evangelical Christians who took over the reigns of the Republican Party and silenced the moderate voices
  • Nkosi Dwight Why should separation of church and state be a particularized contradiction for Black folks? Are we not able to conduct our societal affairs without recourse to our religion? The very premise of the inquiry seems to bring into question Black people’s fitness for office based on our supposed inability to conform to one of the basic tents of the constitutional republic in which we participate. But when you consider the facts, perhaps the very nature of man precludes any person from being able to constructively divorce those two, often competing, concepts. Seems like yet another very good reason to start looking for societal management
  • Nkosi Dwight societal management systems that are not so succeptible to the whims and follies of incomprehensible individuals.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ps5vJrIxM&feature=share&list=PLKyVdrkImtZawwu8medUwpLL7TB3aStSJ
  • Nicole Crawford-Tichawonna First thing that comes to mind: MLK Jr. was a Christian preacher but understood the need for the separation of church and state. Second thing: The paradigm of Christian vs. secular…See More
  • EJ Belton hope you know they put it back in after the religous faction of the party complained. Imagine if Black people actually complained about something (not) being in the platform, since like 96% of us vote (D)…
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  • Larone Koonce The black religious community should sit out this election.
  • Musa Ibraheem True to it’s Masonic/Illuminati origins, part of the goal of the New World Order is to promote the abandonment of religion. If these black “religious leaders” want to lie down with political dogs, they’ll end up with the same fleas.
    2 hours ago · Like · 1

7 Responses to Ask Black America: Should Black Pastors/Leaders Embrace Anti-Religion Democrats?

  1. Imhotep Reply

    October 3, 2012 at 7:35 am

    @Gavin Richard..You must have studied a different American or world history Book than I did in college. Their has never and will never be “GOD” in the making of this country( that Creator quote was put in there for rich white land owners, even poor whites had no rights at that time). Does a “GOD” loving people have slaves and maltreatment of Indians going on at the same time as this country was being stolen? All of you so-called “xtians” need to look at the epic movie” Birth of a Nation” then come back and talk to me. Look at it!! Don’t be scared!! And then tell me where is your Jesus as it relates to this country’s leaders motives. Hotep!!

  2. Sue Reply

    October 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Wake up people! Even Focus on the Family admits “Mormon teaching is incompatible with historic orthodox Christian doctrine.” “We must remember that we are electing a president, not a pastor, priest, rabbi, imam or elder. It is a civic, not spiritual, position with secular, not sanctifying, duties.” (See Full Text Below).

    It’s all about politics. “What one thinks about a Mormon’s faith and what one thinks about that individual as a political candidate may be two very different things — and, when heading to the polls, we wouldn’t rule somebody out just because he or she has a connection with the LDS church.”

    The choice of a political candidate depends solely on who is aliened with and will work to advance our interests. My interests just happen to be access to health care and life saving treatments for all Americans, Me…dicare, Medicaid, access to higher education through student loans and Pell grants, respect for life including born lives and the quality of those lives, preparation through early childhood education, quality K-12 education, job readiness and access to employment and entrepreneurial opportunities, fair taxes, respect for the contributions of all Americans including the “least of them” e.g., the elderly, children, students, veterans, the disabled, those with pre-existing conditions and poor and middle class workers, a living wage, equal pay for women, a domestic jobs bill, respect for the 47%, curtailing the prison industrial complex through education, training and opportunity, millionaires paying higher tax rates than their secretaries….

    What about this scripture? “Defend the poor and the fatherless, do justice to the afflicted and the needy….” Psalm 82:3 Any “Christian” who decides to sit the election out and ignore God’s mandate regarding “the least of them” because of some haughty misguided notion that they can pick and choose which scriptures to follow or that they are electing God is instead of a civil servant is not smart. I’d call them a damned fool but it wouldn’t be scriptural. Mathew 5:22
    ____________________________________________________________________
    —– Forwarded Message —–
    From: FOF Office of the President .
    To: “‘sueinthelou@….com’” .
    Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:35 PM.
    Subject: Response from Focus on the Family – CitizenLink.

    Dear Sue:

    Thanks for your e-mail.

    We appreciate the time you’ve taken to get in touch and share your views on whether or not Christians should vote for Mormons. In response, we’d submit that there are two sides to the issue. On the one hand, we’re certainly aware that official Mormon teaching is incompatible with historic orthodox Christian doctrine. For instance, that Latter-day Saints deny the Trinity and claim that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are actually three different gods. They also assert that man and God are beings of the same basic kind and that faithful Mormons are on the road to becoming gods themselves. They base these ideas on “Scriptures” other than the Holy Bible — The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price. Theologically speaking, these are very serious issues, and we do not take them lightly.

    On the other hand, some would suggest that what one thinks about a Mormon’s faith and what one thinks about that individual as a political candidate may be two very different things — and, when heading to the polls, we wouldn’t rule somebody out just because he or she has a connection with the LDS church. On the contrary, there are many other factors that hold a high degree of relevance, including a candidate’s worldview, competency, and stance on pertinent issues. Jim Daly put it this way:
    With our right to vote comes a responsibility: to look inside our hearts and identify what we hold most dear, then check the box, punch the card or tap the screen next to the name of the candidate who most closely aligns with our values. That’s where the real challenge comes in: Chances are neither Romney nor Obama will earn a perfect score when you go through this exercise … So your decision will come down to this: Which man most closely stands for what I stand for? Whom do I trust more, based on his public record and personal convictions, to lead the nation in the direction I hope to see it go?
    Note that “values” do not equal “religion”; while for many of us, it is indeed our religious faith that informs our values, we must remember that we are electing a president, not a pastor, priest, rabbi, imam or elder. It is a civic, not spiritual, position with secular, not sanctifying, duties. What is of paramount importance in selecting an occupant for such an office is not whether he or she attends the same house of worship as we do; it’s whether he or she adheres to a moral and ethical code, rooted in natural law rather than doctrinal purity, that we believe offers a better vision for America.
    All that said, we believe the election process comes down to a matter of personal conscience. Our goal is simply to advocate for defenseless preborn children, the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, religious freedoms, and other key biblically based issues.

    Thanks again for getting in touch, Sue. We trust you won’t hesitate to let us know if there’s some way we might serve you in the future. Grace and peace to you!

    Tammy Masters
    CitizenLinkSee More

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