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Cornel West Calls Melissa Harris-Perry a “Fake” and a “Fraud”

Professor Cornel West still has issues with Melissa Harris-Perry, a commentator for MSNBC.  In a recent issue in Diverse Issues in Higher Education, West referred to Harris-Perry as a “fake” and a “fraud” for her attacks on him when he worked to highlight the plight of poor and working class Americans.

“I have a love for the sister, but she is a liar, and I hate lying,’ says West. . . . She’s become the momentary darling of the liberals, but I pray for her because she’s in over her head. She’s a fake and a fraud. I was so surprised how treacherous the sister was,” said West.

Harris Perry was recruited to Princeton by Professor West.  She later turned against West and a fellow scholar, Eddie Glaude, referring to them as “hypocritical leftists.”  Harris-Perry has been accused of working with feminists and liberals to deviate political attention away from the African American community.  Professor West says that Harris-Perry’s criticism of him resulted from the fact that the Center for African American studies unanimously rejected for in her bid for promotion to full professor.

West also had strong words for Rev. Al Sharpton, who said that he would never criticize the Obama Administration:

“Whoever thought that Brother Al wouldn’t be protesting any administration?” asks West, who served as an adviser to Sharpton’s 2004 presidential campaign. “You watch his show on MSNBC and you want to say, ‘Brother Al, you come out of the Black prophetic tradition like me. Tell the truth about the White House,’ but he won’t say a mumbling word.”

 


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  5. Why does the media display half white people and black people who are married to white people as being able to speak for the Black population? Better question is why do so many Black people accept this?

    • What an asinine statement. Since when is a person’s identity shaped by who they marry? The already had a cultural identity before they married so it doesn’t matter who they married when they speak to the media.

    • I think a better question is what kind of arrogance drives a person to think they speak for an entire race of people

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  8. Lawrence P. Rockwood, PhD

    Dear Melissa
    Yesterday on your show, The Melissa Harris-Perry Show, on a segment called “Are You a Good Ally”
    You used the example of Viola Liuzzo to document a good model of a civil rights “ally” (a civil rights activist who is not African American).

    “Viola Fauver Gregg Liuzzo (April 11, 1925 – March 25, 1965) was a Unitarian Universalist civil rights activist from Michigan, who was murdered by Ku Klux Klan members after the 1965 Selma to Montgomery marches in Alabama. One of the Klansmen in the car from which the shots were fired was a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) informant..”

    You and your guests described an “ally” as an activist who after “meditating on white privilege” knows their place by remaining a mere auxiliary, facilitator, or adjunct of the movement. Someone who knows their place.

    Milissa it is you, not Viola Liuzzo, who is a second class civil rights activist. You have spent your life as a privileged tenured professor in one of the most exploitive industries of workers in history. Yes, Viola gave her life for someone outside her tribe, her race, or her family. That makes her more of a human being, not less, than you are Melissa.

    Your tribalistic criteria of who is and is not full members of the civil rights movement is pure racial essentialism and bigotry. The same is true of those who think they can judge real feminists by what is between someone’s legs. They are also bigots.

    Mellissa, you do not have the civil rights credentials found in the cold tip of Viola’s fingernail and you never will. The only difference between you and the KKK bigots who murdered her is one of degree. They killed her body, you killed her integrity,

  9. CW IS A JEALOUS OLD WALRUS FACED FOOL.

    • Ronald B. Saunders

      Aaron; Why did you have to resort to name calling to get your point across about Dr. Cornel West.
      Did that make you feel like you had a set of balls to come down on Dr. West like that?
      Aaron; It is always better to attack the problem that you are addressing rather than the person.
      I am also cognizant of the fact most human beings haven’t evolved in their interpersonal thinking to act like decent human beings in applying the “Golden Rule toward one another.
      One may think that the only person who is jealous here in reference to the squabble between Dr. West and Dr. Harris-Perry is you.
      If you are a man you should apologize to Dr. West for your obvious jealous remarks and hopefully you can learn and grow from your unkind remarks.

    • Wow, I guess I thought the nonsense was over, but there seems to be a snowball effect. I have watched Mrs Harris Perry since I first read about the “so called’ feud and have been impressed. Today was not one of my favorite presentations, but it takes a lot to keep me interested over a long period. I would love to see Minister Farrakhan on her show, and no, I am not Muslim. I do not believe in secular religion, so I dont chose one over another

  10. At the end on the day all the people involved in this discussion will have their tenure and MSNBC shows. For me, my concern is black on black crime and education.

  11. Will someone tell use how much money Tavis made from Wells Fargo who was directly responsible for thousands of Blacks losing their homes? He jumped ship once the press found out.

    We should be sick of these slick brothers who have these conferences, raking in all that money and you have the same dialogue every single year. How much of that money goes back to the poor black community Tavis – or does all of it go into your bank account?

    We are just fools – so keep giving that money to slickers. I bet Tavis rakes in $60,000 for his conferences about nothing – same ole subject we have heard for the past 50 years.

    You don’t need a Conference – just send him the money and he can send you a book.

    Those 2 guys seem to be jealous of the President and Melissa.

    Tell the so call full professor he should do something for Blacks – get on the faculty at a Black Institution – instead of jumping on the President who is President of all the people – he should teach all of the students – not just 99% white students. HBCU has more white students than black students at his university. Better yet retire – we are tired of the same ole black mouths who know everything and yet nothing.

    Cornel West would do better to take care of himself and his colored image.

    Mr. West talks BLACK but SLEEPS WHITE and has a mixed child!

    Clean your own house Mr. West before you try to pull down another black man.

    Cornel West’s message is old, tired, crazy, jealous, dumb, and yesterday’s news.

    • Janet’s point is well taken people are tired of the same old gatherings year after year and nothing comes out that benefits us as a people.Why they never talk about how we can start our own Banks,Credit Unions so we can loan to each other so we can start our own businesses and give our own people jobs and hold them to higher ethical codes of conduct in business. Our young people think business is about getting over on someone,you support them but they don’t have to support you. It’s time to teach our youth higher values,you men of higher learning.

    • Ronald B. Saunders

      Alicia Banks: Thank you! Thank you!

      Far too many Black people follow President Obama in cult like fashion and in many cases they don’t use any semblance of critical thinking skills in evaluating his presidency.
      This is what happens to a people who have been so damaged by the psychological scars of slavery, which is inherent in a whole system of white supremacy and most Black people suffer from the (PTSS) Post Traumatic Slave Snydrome or more commonly called the slave mentality.

      Alicia we can’t eat symbolism and so many Black folks are still on this pathetic emotional high of having a Black President in the Oval Office that “they can’t see the forest for the trees” that Barack Obama has been bad for Black America.

      Look at how most Black people on this site have criticized Cornel West for his pointed remarks he made about Obama. But we must remember West’s remarks were no harsher than some of the comments Obama said to several of his liberal critics.

      I not impressed with these folks who come on this site using the title of Doctor or Dr. or Ph.d as though they have some kind of leg-up on this present debate/critique of the Obama presidency.
      Very often the folks who flaunt their academic credentials are covering up for their own feelings of gross insecurity.

      When I won this big case against Robert Kennedy’s Campaign Manager for the state of California in 1968 and I only found out later that he was Kennedy’s big time Campaign manager. He didn’t go around boasting about who or what credentials he possessed.
      I gave a boat-load of money wrongfully to Obama’s campaign in 2008, and my family was featured on the front page of my local newspaper. Alicia that won’t happen again. Yes I was naive and gullible. Now does that make you feel better?

      A vote for Obama or Romney is a vote for Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, and other corporate interests and I don’t want to hear this non-sense about how many Negroes Goldman Sachs employs. Who are the corporate interests that led the charge and connived against Black home owners with fraudulent mortgages and who also made billions of dollars off of those high risk investments? Those are the folks that Obama is in bed with, and most Blacks that have a modicum of intelligence understand this.

      The corporate-financier agenda transcends presidencies. From Reagan to Obama, US foreign and domestic policy has moved in a continuously linear direction toward increasing corporate financial monopolies and eroding the role and sovereignty of the US Constitution and the people who are supposed to execute it.
      Who amongst Obama’s administration can we honestly presume has the people’s or even America’s best interest at heart? Goldman Sachs bankers? JP MORGAN Chase bankers? GE? George Soros? Corporate lobbyists? Indeed, these are the SAME banking, corporate, and political interests that guided the agenda under Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan and so on.
      Kwame Ture once told Alton Jones and me that every Negro in the African Diaspora has the potential of being a BLACK PERSON. Brother Ture went on to describe how Malcolm with the help and assistance from the Nation of Islam had transformed his being from the Detroit Red Negro Personality TYPE to a highly respected BLACK man, who put fear in the heart of racist whites throughout the world and the Negroes who conspired against him.
      Alton Jones was a member of the Howard University Chapter of SNCC, and he was later a co-founder with me of the militant Afro-American Soldiers Association which was a cell of the Black Panther Party.
      Alicia: Please read/review Black Politics, Campaign 2012, and Tomorrow at http://blackbuzz.blogspot.com/1/2/2012
      Then give me a holler!

      Alicia: Then you may want to check out my poem that is dedicated to Africa’s most precious gift to the America which is…. . the Black woman. Titled: A Special Tribute To All Black Women Throughout The African Diaspora.
      at http://blackbuzz.blogspot.com/2/23/2011
      at http://blackbuzz.blogspot.com/2/23/2011

      There maybe some errors because I have to go a meeting and I don’t have the time to edit this.
      Thank you
      Power To The People!

    • Ronald B. Saunders

      Alicia Banks: I have read many of your posts and agree with you one hundred percent in everything that you say and do.

      Alicia banks is a breathe of fresh air.
      Alicia how can we wean Black people off of their addiction to Barack Obama, and the Democratic Party? Why do so many so-called Black people follow Obama in a cult like fashion without using any of semblance of critical thinking skills? When you offer valid constructive critical critique of Obama’s flawed presidency they call you names like troll or sinister rather than deal with the substance of your argument?
      Their counter-offensive attacks against Cornel West are outrageous and border on being classified as absurd.
      One person called him a lunatic and I doubt seriously whether this person was qualified-certified to give a lay person’s medical/mental evaluation of Dr. West. Other commentators on this site have referred to Dr. West’s hair style, and his clothes and other outright ignorant comments which maybe a reflection of their own jealousy.

      Many commentators on this site have attacked Dr. West for working in White Academia rather than at an HBCU but most of these attackers get their pay checks or retirement checks from white owned business establishments.
      Indeed the attackers of Dr. West are indeed hypocritical and who show all of the pathologies and antecedents of the Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome( PTSS).
      Many have attacked Dr West for his relationship with a white women which is so petty. These are same type/kind of Negroes who attacked Frederick Douglass because of his second marriage to a white woman.
      Further these are the same type of Negroes who have attacked Julian Bond for his marriage to a white woman.
      Dr. West loves Black people and his critical critique of Obama is based upon his love for Black people in the context of the Black Liberation struggle which is an ever evolving process in the USA.
      Dr. West could care less about getting an invitation to Obama’s big dance party and we need to bring back some degree of sanity when discussing Barack Obama’s presidency.

      Calling Dr. West names and resorting to all out frontal assault on his integrity and credibility needs to stop now.

      I have written many positive articles about Melissa Harris Perry and the jury is still out on whether she is indeed a fake and fraud.
      Black people have far more important things to think about and react to than this squabble between Dr. West and Dr. Perry.

      I would be willing to mediate a discussion between Dr West and Dr.Perry. Perhaps they might want to have a panel to mediate this discussion but we should begin that process soon in order to relegate this topic to the deep back burner.

  12. Stephen B. Harwell

    You know yall are allright, Now that all that has been said ready to go and help both sides. Why dose either of the have to be completely wrong maybe they both wont some of the same things and some of the different things. Support who ever you wont just start and or continuel to help other.

    And think god for this forum to descuss.

  13. We keep waiting for the President to help our black communities but the bottom line is it starts with each one of us. Immigrants and foreigners continue to come to America with pennies in their pockets in order to live a better life. They are taking advantage of the education provided here while we have to beg many of our children to stay in school.. What are you doing to make the black community a better place? Poverty is a mind set. There are many rich poor people! If you really want to make it regardless of how poor you may be,you determine your destiny by your choices. Yes you will have obstacles,black and whiten haters trying to stop you but the strong survive and know how to thrive. We continue to be our own worst enemy. The so called white man does not have to dirty his hands to destroy us, when we continue to destroy ourselves.

  14. All these negroes are hypocrites. What did they have to say about Romney’s remarks on the “poor”? They barely touched the subject! That is the same thing that they have done with White administrations, no critism no demand for anything, not a request to meet any of the previous Presidents, Now they want to bash MLK JR not because they haven’t been about anything.
    T R I F I L I N G !!!!

  15. West and Perry are wrong. Both are opportunists. West has a problem with not getting enough attention – professor and the world should consult his knowledge. Harris-Perry is just like West, except a lot more subtle. This is probably why West can’t stand her. They’re just alike. Professor West is angry. He should seek counseling. No issue calls for CONSTANT bickering. He never sounds “satisfied” or at ease. He has to always prove a point even when we don’t need the “point.” If Smiley and West are serious about eradicating Black poverty, they would use that bus to tour neighborhoods to tutor young children. They should start a Reading Foundation – and try smiling for once. Goodness gracious! These men seem to stay at odds with themselves. They probably argue with their own reflections. It’s sad to have two well educated brothers in our midst
    that can’t help anyone. Sure, everybody wants to sell books, but how many young people read them? How many sales of their books have been used to fix up schools or pay for lunch? So, before West or Smiley “go after” anyone, they should look at the “men” in the mirror. Perry is an opportunist. We get that, but (again) how is that helping the cause – the real cause?

  16. My first day of gradurate school my professor had one statement that I truly believe in. If you give a person a fish he will eat once but it you teach him how to fish he will eat every day. If we educate our people we would always make the right choices in life. Crime, unemployment, people who have no morals all think that the more money you have you don’t need an education. Wrong! Get the education and make the money. Whether anyone wants to beleive we have a great President and a smart one just wait and see how this election unfolds. Since the late 60’s I never seen or heard stories about racism as I’m hearing now. It’s time for black people to wake up and smell the coffee. Stop looking for handouts and go in your communities and ask what can I do to improve it. Don’t wait on congress, president and others to wait and tell you what to do. Do it and pass it on.

  17. Who cares what Cornell West has to say along with his side kick Tavis Silly. Both of these coons can shove it. Both with their fake poverty tour. Find out who sponsored these two Toms and you’ll have all the answers. Follow the money always.

  18. Mr. West, please do not put all the blame on Melissa Harris-Perry, she is a product of her environment. You must know that the whiteman have always use the black woman against the black man form the period of slavery, and are still doing it today.
    I have seen and heard Mellisa, on MSNBC, several times, I do not disagree with everything that she says, but I also have to realize that she is promoting herself and her agenda.I did not know that you help put her in her position at Princeston. Sometimes the good we do come back to bite us. At least she was only a friend. Mine was my sister and my niece who I help out of the poverty stricken country of Jamaica, and they both put a knife in my back. So dont expect too much from some of our people.
    I have been a strong supporter of President Obama, until he began to drop bombs on Lybia, an African country. Then when he join forces with England and France to kill the man, that took the wind out of my sail.France and England, whould never be anything without the wealth of the African people. And he would support them against an African leader and the continent of Africa, we now know who he is.
    That brought it home to me that Obama, was for Obama and no body else
    Regards to Al Sharpton, look how he got started, the man is a lier, and if you are a lier then yuu might as well become a thief, because that is next.
    I haven’t watched Al Sharpton program, so I cannot say much about it. But I never trust any black man who wear the cloth around his or her neck. I used to be a believer when I did not know anything.And religion was rammed down my thoat. But since then I learn a lot and have totally rejecte religion it is a business. Because it is nothing but sugar coated poisin, just the same thing that Jim Jones fed those people in Guyana, He is a pimp, Jessie is a pimp, and Obama is a pimp.
    I always close my remarks telling people that there are three kinds of Pimps in know. One is the pimp is the street, who sell drugs and prostitution, the second in the pimps in the pulpits. Telling you about hell and heaven, even thopugh he or she have never been there. They tell you about the street of heaven is paved with gold, and there is plenty of milk and honey. I always said if that was true,we would all be killing ourselves to get there. And the third pimp, is the pimp in politics.That is where Obama comes in. He promised you the world which he can never deliver, and turn against his own. And most black people believe that he is above creticism. I will leave it at that.

  19. President Obama does not walk on water and he does not have the powers of a king. He is only the President of the USA which includes every citizen and person living here. Just because he is a black man does not mean he should do things for the black community exclusively. I believe the roll of government is to protect the majority from being taken advantage of by the minority with the money and power and seeing that everyone is afforded an opportunity. Without the cooperation of the Senate, House of representatives and a Supreme Court untainted with influence of money and power of the super rich, there is little any one man can do. So, let stop name calling and shake this crab syndrome affliction and retain our president and take back the House of representatives and retain the majority in the senate, along with paying attention to who your governor is.

    • You are confusing minority to means small in numbers. That is not what it means in the political sense. It means those who have less power, control or influence. Now that we understand that, the government has an obligation to ensure that policies are not oppressive or egregious as to negatively affect the citizenry. All of this talk about personal responsibility is republican speak for let’s roll back the clock to Jim Crow are further, where the Black poor had little to no chance of moving forward and upward.

  20. Wow isn’t there room for a difference of opinion? I do not totally agree with everyone, but that doesn’t make them a bad person? Mr. West may mean well but he comes across as sour grapes. I believe what Sharpton is trying to do is stand up for a man (Obama) that is being attacked on all fronts. In the end I have no problem with that. Do I agree with everything the President has done NO! But I also understand that there is only so much he can do. And on a purely political take while I may not agree with everything the President has done, I’am not stupid enough to believe that a vote for any Republican will be better for me.

  21. Brother Cornel has lost all credibility. To me he has become nothing more than a jealous, bitter old man. Those dudes that are always yelling at kids about “staying of my lawn!”

    Calling MHP a fake/fraud is so petty. You would think that a man with so much intelligence and knows the history of black folks, would stay on the high ground and not get caught up in silly stuff like this. But instead he has become jealous, envious, and petty.

    I lost respect for West and Tavis for their behavior of how they treated President Obama. Now West has really crossed the line.

  22. I just don’t have the words anymore to say why black folks continue to fight among themselves. CW is going mad lately with forever downing his brothers and sisters whom he profess that he loves.

    However, this I can say–thanks to R. King. “Can we all just get alone?”

    It seem that we have become a sick people that cares nothing for one another; we care more about going to Africa with our money and helping the poor there then to help the poor AA in this country. AA with money can do a lot to help the homeless, the addict, the prisoner, the black youth . . . in this country if only they’d pool their million of dollars together. It’s a shame for a people to be so out of touch with their realm, yet they believe that they are brilliant. I do not know what will wake us up, for now we are just a dry people faking the move. All this dung confuses me because I do not know where it’s taking us. It’s like dog eat dog. If we cannot count on our leaders like CW, the President, Travis, Oprah, Cosby . . . and all those rich black folks to truly lead, then who can we count on? God!

  23. If Cornell and Tavis want to do something for Black people, why dond’t they open a school. I dont see Cornell leaving his job working for the white boys in higher education and going to work in the Black community. I dont see Tavis opening a school to teach Black kids how to be broadcasters and talk s–t like he does. Frankly, I damn sick of both of them, Cosby, Steve Harvey, the whole damn bunch.As for the President, wait until his second term when he will owe nobody a damn thing and can be the President he wants to be. Then what would yo dumbass have to say?

  24. Cornel West is one of those “Uncle Tom” house Negroes, who will not just go away.

  25. Yeah I was wondering when someone would say something about the half jew. She’s not smart because when they’re done with her sexually, intellectually, she will be discarded. There are other mixed blacks in politics that need to put under a microscope. She’s a tragedy as half her community would call her and let us all just watch her be devoured.

  26. I think the world has just moved on from the rhetoric of the Cornel West’s and company. MHP represents current thought and CW and Co represent an outdated old school way of thinking. He will win no new fans by slamming her.

  27. I agree… But they have over a barrel right now.. Part of the foul dirty bird’s game is to give us to 2 bad choices and we get to pick the least of the worst.

    You can vote for Obama…… Or you can vote for that crazy mofo Newt Gingrich or Santorum or Mitt…

    that isnt a real choice. But we are trying to at least buy ourselves some time here… We don’t wanna burn down the house totally and thats what republicans are threatening..

    The sad thing is that the democrats are simply playing ‘good cop’ to the republican ‘bad cop’.

    you ever notice that republicans and democrats agree on all the things that hurt this country. Our involvement over seas with Israel and china Saudi Arabia.. This stuff will NEVER change no matter who the president is…

    They were (and probably still) working on an austerity plan to wipe out the middle class and the poor in one big stroke… Nobody wants to get rid of Medicare or medicaid… Not even the tea party… But politicians still talk about doing it anyway… They still talk about more wars starting with Iran and Syria… Who supports this beside the industrial military complex? Nobody, but that doesnt matter when the politicians are bought by these groups.

  28. The Obamaphiles on board need to get their drawers out of a knot. The headline should have been “West will vote for Obama in November.” That’s right Dr. Cornel West will vote for the person he calls a “Black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs.”

    “Barack Obama is so much better than the Republicans. So, in that sense I want him to win.” – Cornel West

    I thought truth and justice was the standard, not the Re-thuglicans. This suggests that Dr. West, and some other critics of the POTUS (Amiri Baraka, e.g.) have not broken the monopoly which the two-party system has on their minds. Although their endurance of the two-party tyranny may be on life support it has not yet expired. They are self-shackled to the Democratic Party plantation because their political vision is limited to two-wings of the same foul bird.

    • Give me a break… Show me where there is another alternative better than the democratic party as it stands!! You can sprout all of this elitist bull crap all day but the bottom line is this. The people who will suffer most are the poor minorities. All of this rhetoric has a geo-political eloquence to it but I for one am not willing to risk peoples futures to satisfy a whim like yours. It is all a plantation my friend… you just have to chose yours. You are on one believe me you are!!

  29. Cornell West should be ashamed of himself. HE need not pray for MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY, he needs to pray for himself and Tavis Smiley. How near sighted he is to see tha the president is doing all he can for all poor people. Isaac Ravizee,Jr.

  30. As Black people fight over stuff that is not important because of their egos. Black people will continue to suffer. The Crab mentality is tragic.
    As long as we fight, put each other down, things will stay the same……………………………..

  31. Mr. Rasheed,

    What do you think “war” does to a country? You cannot send billions out everyday and expect to not suffer. Did President Obama do it? No, of course not. Is he trying to do something about it? Yes, I believe that he is. Did you criticize the Bush/Cheney/Rove trio as much as you are criticizing President Obama? What has happened to our urban communities goes a lot deeper than a lot of us would like to admit. We can’t point our finger at one reason, there are a myriad of reasons for urban decay, besides loss of jobs, homes, and public schools. You mentioned that you are from Philadelphia? I understand that you are now referred to as Killadelphia. What are “we” doing to get to these young black males who are destroying each other? Is it President Obama’s fault? Where are the religious communities, responsible adults, and others? I’ll await your reply.

    • This is to R.J

      lets put a few things into their proper perspective as far as Obama and the Philadelphia school district, and also the black community

      on Obama – I agree that Obama didnt start these wars. I personally think our presence in these countries are a big part of what is bankrupting us. What I dont like about Obama and his foreign policy is

      *His willingness to kill american citizens with drones (that means no due process for those that american he killed). Killing Americans with drones is a HUGE NO-NO. I dont care where in the world these people happen to be. If ypu suspect an American of being a terrorist? bring him home and try him in a court of his peers..PERIOD!! Killing citizens like that is completely unacceptable..

      *I hate the fact that Obama kept Bush’s rendition program in tact. That means we still give ourselves the right to go around the world KIDNAP people who we think are our enemies.. We kidnap people and ship them to bases across the world where we can hold them. That is ILLEGAL!!

      *We are still looking at an open Guantanamo base after he campaign on shutting that thing down. That place is a disgrace to this country and everything we supposedly stand for. Most of the people in there are simply people KIDNAPPED from areas considered to be battle fields.. People in there are tortured for years. it is disgusting what goes on there.

      You asked me did I complain about Bush? The answer is HELL YEAH!! you have to understand that part of Im soo disappointed in this president BECAUSE he has continued too many of the Bush policies….. As a matter of fact, the VERY 1st thing that tipped me off that Barack would probably be a puppet was his REFUSAL to prosecute Bush & Cheney as WAR CRIMINALS. He should have thrown the book at those guys. That would have truly wiped the slate clean for this country. We would have totally rejected what had been done in the last admin… BUT HE DID NOT HAVE COURAGE TO DO IT. he gave up some lame explanation about ‘moving forward’. You cannot properly move forward without putting old issues to rest.

      As far as the Philly school district and the crime in black community goes – Everyone who has looked into it knows that crime and poverty are related. That doesnt excuse the crime, but it does give you a good idea of what the people living here are going through. I live here though, and I notice the fact that there are many hard working black women and men and children who are trying to improve than there are crooks out here. The Philly school district has been under a serious assault since Corbett came in. Like I said earlier the union and government jobs that employ alot of black folks are under assault here. Of course this is going to affect the crime rate. what would people expect. but again, what has Obama done to even attempt to address it?

      This president is no good to the our community if he is too scared to help… Black folks werent too scared to vote for him in record numbers.

      my main point is that Cornel and Tavis and Harry and other people holding Barack accountable are trying to do the right thing. Im not talking about the GOP trying to use race to gain votes… thats just another side of the game being played in washington

      We need to force him to do it…. We black people should NEVER be soo much in anyone’s pocket that they know they can ignore and still get our vote. ESPECIALLY if that politician is a black man. black folks should know better.

      but I understand politics, and I understand that Barack wont do a damn thing if he isnt forced. He’ll coast and continue to ignore us

      • Some of you guys really need to reckon on this geo-political rhetoric!! Your dialog or better yet monologue does not make you appear smarter, it just makes you sound pompous and naive. One of the problems I have said is real about those who tend to align themselves with liberal politics is this… we have way too many voices and opinions, thus no cohesion. Can we just find a way to make a difference ourselves? Maybe we should put down our bullhorns and roll up our collective sleeves and make a difference that way. Maybe we could donate a little more to a worthy cause or something, because this kind of rhetoric is an exercise is real futility!

    • And I wont even get into NDAA right now because I could fill this whole site writing about how this is probably the worst thing that has happened in a LONG LONG time. This damn near signals the END of America….

  32. You know, you have to realize that the republicans are systematically destroying unions and government jobs..

    Who benefits the most from those jobs? BLACK PEOPLE..

    not only that, but it is also destroying the democratic base by displacing their unions and weakening its strength.

    this will also lower wages and working conditions in the long run.. Guess who gets hit hardest by that? BLACK PEOPLE

    In totality, this is an issue that will ultimately destroy ALL of america, but, as usual, black people will be the first one to feel it.

    As far this ms. perry lady….. I dont have an overall opinion on her. I have seen her use some specious argument to dismiss the real point which is that Obama needs to be held accountable for his in action.

    It only right…

    people had better wake up

  33. This really unfortunate, I happen to like what Melissa and Cornell have to say. I wish that he had spoken to her one on one then do this in the public sphere. I also respect Tavis too. (smh)

  34. I am disappointed with Dr. West, especially airing his public beef with Dr. Harris. What exactly does calling someone a “liar and a fraud” do for our community? We are wasting precious time while “others” work 24/7 to disenfranchise our people from the voting process in the upcoming presidential elections. So you think President Obama isn’t doing “anything” for the black community? Well I suggest that you talk to some black folk at GMC and Chrysler. Talk to black people who are in need of health care, and those who are working to save public schools, and others who are taking advantage of jobs coming back to the states. SMH

    • I live in philadelphia and I talk to enough black enough every day… I am black and I know what is going on…

      I work for a public school system, that republicans are stripping cities and states of their funding for schools and the Obama and democrats arent doing a damn thing about it.. The philly school system is getting crushed while the governor promotes tax free oil drilling.

      We are getting crushed in the cities.. In Jersey, in New York… Everyone is feeling the serious crunch of revenue reduction across the country

      Have you seen black unemployment numbers? They surely dont suggest Obama is doing anything on the job front, Im sorry to say.

      I actually like Obama as a guy, and I want him to succeed.

      the sad part is that I know he wont do anything to help because he doesnt HAVE TO. the black community is scared to hold him accountable..

      to me? No black president is better than a poor black president, especially a guy is simply too scared to stand up for his own people.

      It is actually embarrassing to see my people refuse to stand up for themselves using this silly logic that we ‘cant because he is the president of all america, not just black america’ or the petty celebrity gossip that replaces the real issues that guys like Cornel and Harry Belafonte and Tavis point out

      • I am with you. Why should Obama care about the Black community when the Black community does not hold him accountable? We make excuses as to why he cannot help us. Well, are you going to make excuses for the next president, too? Wake up people! The right to vote (or not vote) is about holding people accountable.

    • I agree with your comments R.J; Perhaps Cornel West and Tavis Smiley need to get back on that ILL-FATED bus they traveled on a few months ago. They received very little attention as they critized and demonized many well meaning people of all cultures to include THE PRESIDENT. Maybe they should have talked to more BLACK people and listened to how we really feel. It seems to me that they were thrown under the bus on this project! I’ve had ample time to observe research and listen to MHP and I find her quite candid,forthcoming,and upright in her assessments and delivery of the facts. I like and appreciate her. Keep the faith Melissa!

      B.J Harley

  35. CW and TS have lost credability with me. CW showed me he is a poverty pimp for only teaching at elists ivy-league schools and never any HBCUs, those schools most black students will never attend. I don’t have a problem with Harvard many of greatest blacks have attended: The Obamas, Dr Dubois,Dr CG Woodson,Reginald Lewis, etc., but each one named has made significant contributions to the black community at large. CW who covorted with a a white woman having a child (read his book)and now lives with a white Jewish woman (so much for loving sisters sounds like OJ to me, we see how that white woman brought Don Cornelius down but we never learn) , divorced 2 other black women, had money issues with child support and alimony, is an absentee father, and an intellectual elists who has all the answers for black america but lives in a white world yet no answers for himself. While I still love Dr West he needs to go somewhere and shut up for a while, stop criticizing President Obama publicly, use some of that Harvard/Union Theological Seminary money to do grassroots stuff in the black community(teach innercity kids for free, feed people, help house homeless people, teach at a HBCU for way less money, become a pragmatist realist instead of an idealist philosophical highly educated idiot dreamer. Leave the dreaming to Dr MLKjr. Tavis is another story, another black dude gone mad. Crabs in the barrel, I’d say so, CW and TS need to go home and get a whupping for being bad boys.

    • Wake up black folks… this isnt a celebrity game. stop focusing on silly stuff. Who cares what they wear, and what their hair looks like.

      THINK!! pay attention to what is actually happening.. this isnt soap opera

      these politicians are planning your future, and they arent planning a good one. Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin…

      they play good cop bad cop with the public and divide people against themselves..

      Obama wont help you. You have to force him to do it. Just like those rag tag white kids forced the conversation change with their occupations.

      Government (including Obama) was talking about austerity before those kids highlighted the true problem in this country

      Brothers like Cornel and Tavis, and Harry are trying to wake you up… We dont have much time left…

      like the brother said above, once Obama leaves, it will only get tougher

  36. It really irks me that we might all fall apart because we refuse to accept the truth.

    Obama isnt in washington working for U!!

    He has his masters already, and he is working for them. Just like all the other politicians are doing. He is no different.

    Im tired of all the excuses about how its the racist republicans fault he cant get anything done. Sure they are racist and working against him, but in alot of areas you cannot blame the republicans at all.

    cant blame the republicans when it comes to foreign policy… Obama sends out the drones on his own. Cant blame him the republicans for NDAA.. HE SIGNED IT. If he was against it, he should have VETOED IT. The excuse about everyone in congress being for it doesnt float. He should have done the right thing and VETOED that bill.

    As far as I know we still do renditions… Kidnapping people, Guantanamo? Didnt he campaign to close that shameful facility?

    I work with people who are ignorant about politics and they love it!

    You get the government you deserve and if we dont wake up and get serious about the state of ourselves and our communities, we wont be around for much longer.

    You see what the republicans have planned for you? Do not wait on Obama or any politician to stop it because you’ll be waiting forever.

  37. This wanna be Fredrick Douglass “Cornell West” and his side kick Tavis just need to cool it. He talks about the poor , But when they toured the poverty tour they were wearing suites and promoting there books. Also where was all of this cry about the poor when Bush was in office, He or Tavis didn’t step to the Black Cacaus or others about this, He really looks stupid , And Please tell him to take off the scarf..

    • So what they had on suits?

      what does that have to do with anything?

      Who else has dared to highlight the poor and stand up against ‘stop & frisk’ in brooklyn and get stand up against the supreme court ‘citizen’s united’ nonsense?

    • I wonder if the scarf that he wears year-round is modeled after the French existential writer Jean Paul Sartre?

  38. Black folks had better wake up soon. Im disappointed that Cornel couldn’t find a better way to express his feelings about this woman. That said, I agree with him generally.

    These people in here claiming Cornel is some sort of fraud? You people are fooling yourselves. Frauds do not pick the plight of the poor and black community as some mission to make them famous. Frauds don’t get arrested standing up for the rights of every one else. Frauds dont take unpopular stances on issues like these.

    Obama hasnt done anything for the black community yet people hold him in higher esteem than they hold themselves. He is no good if he wont even show the courage to stand up what is right. Is Harry Belefonte phony too?

    these men are warning the community that we better stop waiting on a savior and start standing up for our issues and holding these politicians accountable..

    Obama is a POLITICIAN… Alot of what he has done has made our situation worse.

    Im still mad about the National Defense authorization act..

    I pray black folks wake up and stop this silly hero worship so we can get serious and improve communities

  39. WoW! Dr. Boyce…you actually said those things as though you know them to be facts…Someone from President Obama’s office actually called up Michelle and said look…we want you to control those people of color…we don’t want any dissenting voices from the black community and for this we will look after you…WoW! Are you serious?

    • Your reaction to Dr. B. Wallace is right on target, this guy and his rhetorics has become very troubling, to say the least. Wow is the word!

    • Exactly my original thought when hearing Dr. Boyce’s comments and delusional conspiracy fiction. Does Dr. Boyce, Dr. West and Mr. Smiley really think that the black community is that easily persuaded, sold and hoodwinked by any self appointed spokesperson? We will now be more cautious of your obvious backbiting and jealousy of MPW and RAS who have what you dream about at night like an Oreo cookie. All of your divisive behaviors, middle school name calling and high school jealousy is really sad an obvious. Dr. Boyce you have earned little here by your jumping on to the band wagon of crabs. I teach my h.s. students to listen carefully, decode what you hear and apply common sense and search for logic. There is none here; just jealousy. As clear as day. Be well with yourselves.

      • Mr. Bayne: Fred Logan, an activist has been involved in the struggle for Black Liberation for the past 50 years and he participated in the Gary Convention in 1972.
        Mr. Logan also wrote a great piece titled Black Politics, Campaign 2012, and Tomorrow and you may elect to review that article at http://blackbuzz.blogspot.com/1/2/2012

        Let me provide you with several excerpts from that great article.

        ” We must also very carefully critique the various goals and objectives of Obama’s Black supporters. Some are motivated solely by racial pride.” And the primary goal for some is to gain something for themselves.
        A lot of Obama’s most diehard Black supporters will never admit it, but they are HYPOCRITES. Yes
        they certainly do adore Barack Obama as much as they claim. But they are more INFACTUATED WITH WHITE POWER. So, they worship Obama because he is Black and sits on the political throne of WHITE POWER. These Obamaphiles would also worship most any mainstream Black politician female or male— say Colin Powell-who won the White House.”
        ” These are some of the very same people who always bad mouth the call for BLACK POWER in African American life, but IDOLIZE white power. They worship the dollar, the mainstream corporate media, various white ethnic groups, and so on. Their love of White Power transcends their love of OBAMA. AND OBAMA LOVES WHITE POWER, despite his occasional colorblind utterances.”
        ” These are also some of the very same Black people who have argued long and loud since Obama took office for the Black community to lay low and give the brother a chance. Don’t criticze the President, they scold. Way, way too many Black people did lay low and gave Obama a chance while he expanded American military aggression in the Middle East and Africa, while the economy continues to stagnant and devesate low and middle income people, and while sometimes a teary-eyed, pragmatic president appealed to the morality of an immoral GOP for compromise.”
        ” While the Black community was laying low, however, the US RIGHT aggessively mobilized and organized its national base and dominated the political vacum produced by the LULL in mass Black Political mobilization. This GRAVE error has been the major failure of Black politics since Obama won office in 2008. It is also one the greatest errors in the history of Black struggle. It has yet to receive the BLACK CRITIQUE it demands of US ALL.”
        Yes, Mr. Bayne there is much more to this article but I will stop for now and hopefully this article will raise your level of consciouness and political IQ.
        Mr. Bayne: Mr. Logan is talking about the vast majority of Black people who have commented on the West, and Perry feud on this site and what we need to do in the context of all political campaigns.
        After you have read that article them you may elect to have a positive constructive conversation about the content and substance of said article with me.

        *Mr. Bayne: They tried to buy off Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. with big jobs in corporate America but Martin said NO and he wasn’t for sale at any price. Further we have NO credible or accountable national Black leaders for most are for sale if the ” Price is Right.”

        * Mr. Bayne: For your information Mr. Logan has two Ph.D’ degrees.

        When I lecture to and with Black students around the USA I always tell them that our Movement was never about one person’s career or one family.
        The Black Liberation Struggle was all about all of us as a collective body. Politicians come and go but the struggle must continue.

        Mr. Bayne, what are you teaching to your young high school students under your charge?

    • You are right on the mark. A very poorly written piece that shouldn’t have been written.

  40. The real issue here is CW’s apparent and obvious jealousy that MPH has surpassed him in success. He should just say that he wants the commentator job with MSNBC. I like Melissa, she’s a great change for the common face in cable news. CW should be ashamed, he’s been talking crazy lately and contradictory. He and his crew should go somewhere and Sit down, shut up, and stop hating on a sistah!!! Do your thing Melissa!

  41. I am truly sad to see the horse and pony act put on by two men whom I had always place way up on my list of highly respected spokesperson for our people…I really could not believe my eyes and ears when the two of them looking like heckel & jeckel act.

    No past president set the black masses back further than GWB, yet they did not have the courage to speak out in such a matter b/c I imagine they wouldn’t have gotten the tv coverage to sell their books…

    I am so sorry for them, I hope the lost of respect and high esteem in which they were previously held was worth it…

  42. Dr. West sees that his relevancy is slipping fast. He’s like a young man who’s been on top for a long time, and as the sun begins to go down on him as it does for us all, he fights for his last breath. Dr. West, please accept the fact that old generations past and new generations come about. It would be best that you help usher in the new generation. Stop fighting for you place in society. This life is more than about your ideology. Stop being so insulting. Many people know and have heard of you. You have done many good things, but now you’re beginning to look really bad our eyes. I support Dr. Harris in new show on MSNBC. I know you wish you had a show. Rev. Sharpton has a show. What about me. Don’t be so self centered and selfish. “Keep IT Real”

  43. Last straw! C.W. you have issues! MH-P is legit and never,ever has lied!! (MSNBC watch it religiously)You need to get your facts and OPINION in order. Calling her out like that is like me calling your mother the neighborhood ‘hole’ for all of us’brothas’ to practice on. Yea, I said it like I meant it. And, if you came at me like that . . .you would be well dressed for your final viewing.
    You don’t know everything, neither do I or she. But you think you can just ‘Call Out’ anybody because you have a voice and camera stuck up your ass? By the way, POTUS ain’t perfect. Hell, I disagree with him a 1/3 of the time, but remember we men who sit around at schools/places of higher learning don’t need to inflame and demean so spitefully like you have. The disrespect( if you are actually say this) is not acceptable. And if you were on my campus right now . . . . I need to
    stop, I’m angry and this is not what I want my students to see.

  44. First, I need folks to address Harris-Perry correctly; it’s DR. Melissa Harris-Perry. Second, their beef seems to be professional and personal. Dr. West feels slighted because he brought her to Princeton. Truth be told, they both have their pros and cons. Both talk about love of the Black community, but will either even consider teaching at an HBCU?

    • Dr. Melissa Harris Perry–right you are, Mr. Gray, and we shouldn’t forget that… But, this is what happens when an intellectual becomes a celebrity. Rachel Maddow is a Phd, too, and nobody calls her Dr. Maddow. Mike Huckabee isn’t Reverend Huckabee. The minute Al Sharpton became an announcer, he lost his reverend title, as far as I was concerned. Her pedigree will fly out the window, the minute she says something that the media doesn’t like.

      I’ve suggested Sister Citizen to my book club. The book is Dr. MHP’s non-fiction look at Black women in America. You can help a sister (MHP) out by buying it! LOL

      I had the nagging question about Cornel West and HCB’s, like you raise here How committed are “they” if they are teaching at historically white schools about Black America. Are they uplifting the race in the eyes of the majority? Or are denying HBC’s college students a real opportunity. In retrospect, I wish I had attended an HBC, but I’m of the 70s generation when we were trying to integrate white colleges.

  45. I used to be a fan of Cornell West. He’s lost most if not all of his credibility with me. Having join the predictable lot of pundits who, when they have no real argument for their position in a discussion and are confronted with the notion that they might be wrong, begin to call names — like bullies on the playground — in order to distract from the truth. Not a good look Cornell.

  46. god help you when cornel starts a sentence w/how much he loves you

  47. This conflict among these so-called personalities is a vestige of slavery that looms over anybody with color. The “Willie Lynch” letter is in full evidence, even while we have Black men and women in enviable positions of power.

    I believe Tavis and Cornell do have a beef with the President, and the likes of Harris-Perry, who are “darlings” of the liberal media, if not the progressive media. The problem with that is anything that becomes mainstream is no longer respectable. Black people are usually in the trenches, fighting the good fight, and Messieurs Smiley and West perceive themselves to be the underdogs in the fight. Smiley and West’s hearts are in the right place, but they are facing a media juggernaut that always chooses our “leaders.” A biracial woman who purports to speak for Black America; and a biracial President who purports to have Black people’s interests at stake.

    It’s my understanding that the gentlemen are concerned about this Presidency being our last ditch hope for turning around the malaise in the Black community, and the continued antipathy towards it. That means, the train ain’t movin’ after Obama leaves. So, in their fervor, they are trying to shame the President and other Black leaders who they believe have been co-opted by the media, to do something bold–while they can. And it’s not striking a chord with those erstwhile leaders.

    I agree with Smiley and West. HOWEVER, I do think they are losing their argument by name-calling, as West has done. All it does is marginalize the name-caller. They are in an unenviable position, these Black-American centric brothers (gotta love ‘em), trying to wake us up while we smile and cry with tears because a Black man is in power. They are angry that this President is not being Presidential when it comes to us–and, guess what? The President can’t–because the racists are watching each and every step of his to label him a Black President, versus a President of the USA.

    This is a deep division between members of our own race. I am glad MHP has been given her position. She is no dummy. She’s an academic with an ability to speak in a language Whites understand. But again, the media chooses their darlings… and at the same time, marginalizes them. I was vehemently against Al Sharpton becoming a news announcer. For me, that’s like Malcom X becoming a roving reporter. But that’s his decision. One can never trust the media, even when it has the best of intentions. And for Sharpton and MHP to do the talking for their Masters can’t help but make anyone with any political sense wince a wee bit.

    But, as we all say, “I ain’t mad at ya!”

    That’s the legacy of slavery. We all champion each other when we “gets to the big haus!”

    West and Smiley are sacrificing their reputations to not let us be complacent. We are a complacent people, obviously, with our “if you can’t beat ‘em, join em,” DNA.

    This is a big one, but it’s still a tempest in a tea pot. There is no hue and cry, however, because the media has us all in knots about Jay-Z, Drake, and Lil Wayne, and Niki Minaj can wear fried chicken as a pendant around her neck. We are still slaves, and West and Smiley know it. But we’re not listening.

    We get misty-eyed when we see our fearless leader’s smile, his Afro-centric wife, who makes us all feel better about our position in the world.

    But don’t get it twisted. There are major problems in our society. And our brothers Smiley and West are trying to tell us… but nobody’s listening. We omit to do so… at our peril.

    • Hard to listen when their agenda isn’t really about what they’re talking about. Don’t you get it twisted, there are many issues that our communities refuse to address, preferring to look for shortcuts. We will likely be ill prepared once again, when the economy begins to rise, taking those who looked past new Jordans and red soled shoes to see what the new future looks like. We have yet to understand what it means to be “shovel ready.” Tavis has had years of all talk and no action. Aside from selling their books and beefing about not being invited to dinner at the White House, where are they leading us, leading you? I see no walk in all the talk and actions have always had the greater voice in the end.

      • Wait, Tavis hasn’t just sat back. Tavis has the State of the Black Union conferences each year, where leaders come together to discuss issues germane to the Black American experience. That’s a start and is more than what anyone else has done, in a popular sense. Everybody hawks their book–you can’t blame them for that. Smiley has always kept a foot in the Black pool, as it were, even while being at PBS. I’ve come to admire him. He is a journalist. He’s got a different beef than West.

        • Yes, Tavis had an annual conference where folks talk and don’t listen, create soundbytes in order to acquire the applause and has yet to create a cohesive plan of action and implement it. One could at least find a way to harvest all that hot air and use it as an energy source. But I challenge you to find one single end result that has generated long term benefits for a single community.

          • So what do you think Obama is going to do for the Black community once he leaves office. If he is not willing to do much, now, it is safe to assume that stance will not change. Obama has far more power and influence to reform policy and make other advancements in the Black community than Tavis and West ever had. Yet, he does not use it to help the Black community be ready when the economy does recover, for instance.

            Personal responsibility is important but will never change the fact that policy is the oil that turns the wheel to significant change. You can have all the responsibility you need, if no one is willing to invest in your community, there will not be jobs in your community. Simple. Mass incarceration (when the crime rate has been trending down for decades), dilapidated housing, failing schools, a non-livable wage and so on. Dr. West and Tavis and even I can talk about it: But Obama can make change. Change we can believe in–right. He chooses not to do so.

            If Obama does even make an attempt, we should not expect future presidents to anything, as well. And we should make excuses for them and not criticism them and so forth. We should treat them the same as we treat Obama. What would that get us?

        • That State of the Black Union that he Tavis Silly puts on is nothing but a bunch of BS. Negroes making speeches. I don’t need a bunch of self serving Negroes making rebel rousing feel good speeches to tell me what’s wrong in the Black community and I venture to say neither do most Blacks. No one can tell me one thing “not one” thing that has come out of these gatherings. A big fat ZERO other than these Negroes patting each other on the back, selling their books followed by a whole lot of finger popping and who knows what else behind closed doors. Got that?? Not one plan of action to address the ills have been adopted and put into motion. Absolutely Nothing. I’m glad President Obama didn’t attend that BS and I’m glad he hasn’t had any of these back stabbing Coon Negroes in the White House because he truly knows they ain’t Sh*t. Right on Obama you don’t these F*%*ing “N Words”.
          Now let me tell you how I really feel.

    • Have you watched Rev. Sharpton’s Politics Hour newscast? He is very good and insightful, as well as appropriately critical. I don’t believe that one has sold out by virtue of having a show on a mainstream media outlet. In fact, I would rather hear Melissa Perry and Al Sharpton analyzing the critical issues of the day than a lot of other people in the public eye. I would take Cornel and Tavis seriously if they got off their soap boxes and went into a real community and did some actual work on behalf of the needy. As someone already said in this forum, build some houses and schools. Register people to vote. Organize an after-school program with tutors and enrichment programs. Feed the kids before they go home to exhausted parents. Organize a micro financing programs for entrepreneurs. Talk is cheap and Cornel and Tavis have talked a lot but I have seen no specific acts that would actually help people. What is tragic is the very poor people they say they speak for do not know they exist..It’s one thing to collect a $30K fee from a white university for giving a speech on a the failure of President Obama and quite another to do something for the poor. I worked in the civil rights movement in the sixties and I find nothing inspiring about these two gentlemen who have set themselves up as leaders.

  48. Cornel West, is he half man or half werewolf? Every time I see this cat he looks like he caught the last portion of a full moon & couldn’t finish changing. If West wants to make a difference for the poor then the man should start by getting a damn haircut. Then maybe the President t would welcome his crazy ass to the White House. Hell I wouldn’t invite his ass into my house looking like something crawled out of an old horror movie. The brother is quick to point out what young black male should be doing to better themselves. But to look at this guy and take him seriously with that hair, come on you got to be joking.

    • So disrespectful. I guess you have never seen a picture of one of our greatest Black intellectuals and advocate for freedom and Black equality: Frederick Douglass?

      I am starting to get a better sense of the problem: Some Blacks resent Black Intellectuals and take every opportunity to bring them down. I assume Obama is going to leave the Black community better off than where he found it. The man will only utter the words Black poor or minority poor a couple of times a few few months–and only briefly. But you worry about hair.

    • OMG! LAUGHING MY BUTT OFF!!!!!!!

    • Ronald B. Saunders

      Did you know that Jesus Christ wore his hair in locks?

  49. cw,

    fraud is:

    working at white racist institutions,

    teaching white students,

    never worked at a hbcu to work with black people that you claim to love

    while making millions pimping the black community off of books and speaking engagements.

    now who is the real charlatan?

    • Well-said.

    • WOW! Well Said!!

    • Amen…now those are facts Dr. West can not dispute!

    • That is simplistic thinking. It must be for affect, not logical reasoning.

      Fake is praising someone when you need them for career advancement then attacking the very person you praised because you did not get what you wanted from the career opportunity. Now you find yourself on a team you feel is better than where you were because there are better career opportunities. You then do the dirty work of discrediting your former friend and mentor because you feel the grass is greener–and there are more opportunities for career advancement.

      If we had friends or colleagues who turned on us–and we truly trusted them–we would have some words to say, as well. Let’s be real about it.

      Finally, teaching black students or working at a hbcu has nothing to do with being fake or a fraud. If you accept that logic, then, you have to accept the logic that not living in the hood means you are a fake and a fraud. And that, too, is simplistic thinking. Not teaching at a hbcu is a choice, similar to working at MSNBC is a choice. Noting more.

      I have read one of Perry’s essays, aimed at Dr. West, and it was disgraceful, a ridiculous rant. But no one mentions that. Is it because she supports Obama? Bias alert detector is gonging off.

      The fact is that before Obama was ever heard of, many of you probably respected Dr. West, Tavis Smiley and others, and their fight for the poor. Dr. West gave voice to issues that no one wanted to talk about or hear. And we cheered him on. Now he is referred to in such negative terms–unbelievable. Now he is a want-a-be, who might as well have step off the corner, yesterday, than a well respected and accomplished Black intellectual. This is an example of why the Black community cannot pull together to accomplish important goals. The new Black guy has a higher position than the old black guy, so let’s dump the old Black guy for criticizing the new Black guy with the beautiful family.

      What do you think Obama is going to do when he is out of office–move to Harlem? Be an advocate for Black America? He is going to do as most Presidents have done: Make tons of money doing public speaking and lobbying for industry while the poor black remain under oppressive and egregious policies. Obama has a chance to change this outcome, but probably will not even attempt such as thing.

      Maybe years from now, when there is no Black president and no one is advocating for Black America, we will accept Dr. West or ilk, again. He will remain true to who is and has been for decades: the voice representing the least of among us and an advocate for policy reform in poor communities.

      If Obama will not advocate for poor blacks while president, why would he do it when he leaves office? And if he becomes an advocate after leaving office, he would have no power to reform policy. It would be viewed as though Obama was being careful not anger white America and ruin his legacy as a consensus building president in the guise of Lincoln. How do WE benefit from that approach?

      • Lee Chambers’ comments make the most sense. Cornell West has been speaking the truth about the
        conditions in the black community for years; and after Obama leaves office, West will continue to speak out, write about and teach about these issues.
        However, Mr. Obama does not appear to have the courage or conviction to advocate for justice and fairness for the black community. Only today he seemed satisfied to throw away “no child left behind” educational objectives. Certainly the Bush education reform efforts were lacking, but Obama is now allowing states to create their own versions of quality education. In other words our children will still be left behind under the Obama administration. I believe Obama has not yet made any significant effort to address the bitter economic inequalities — especially unemployment —
        in black communities.
        Clearly Obama is just coasting along basking in our adoration of him and his family. But when he leaves office in 2012 or 2016, we will only have great Obama memories, warm Obama photos. We will have to depend on Cornell West to speak the hard truths.

    • BRAVO!!!! Well said and all very true!!!!

  50. Sadly, Cornel West has developed the habit of labelling and criticizing those people of color who dare differ with him and his ideology. I hate to think of what West thinks of President Obama, ha ha.

  51. Dr. West is suffering from the “Crab Mentality” “if I can’t have it, neither can you.” Prof. Harris-Perry, is moving up on the polital scene, she has her own week-end show on MSNBC; Dr. West does not, it’s that simple. The notion that Dr. West is perhaps the smartest man on earth was at one time floated around (by the black community at least)but as I witness his childish behavior in regards to Prof. Harris-West and President Obama this is something I seriously doubt.

    • Correction: “…moving up on the political scene.”

    • I have to believe that it does seem like Dr West dislikes anyone who disagrees with him . Instead of taking the opportunity to say where she got it wrong he rather demean her character .

  52. Just another MSNBC token, another personality than real “journalist.

  53. So just what is the fake and fraud? Name calling is meaningless unless you back it up by examples to bolster and prove your point. This goes for both sides. Laying out a problem to the public requires examples and proof of any claim. The rest of us will decide for ourselves.

  54. Carnival Barker “West” is the real fake and fraud!

  55. From: Mint condition. Tnakes for the coreections. It didnt matter whether seh had an valid point. Don’t fret over the small things.

  56. Deborah Henderson

    As a avid reader ,I was saddened by the use of words by Dr. West when describing Melisa Harrs- Perry. I agree with the previous writer Mr. Saunders and I spport Ms. Harris!

  57. I think Cornel West is the fraud/fake! I believe Cornel (and I can’t in good conscience give him a title, when he refuses to give my President his title), and Tavis Smiley are so jealous of President Obama that it’s killing them. I can almost understand Tavis (the President didn’t come on his show, boo hoo), but I can’t figure West out for the life of me. After hundreds of years of oppression, we finally get a “Black Man” in office and all they can do is berate him. I wish they’d get a life! If you can’t be a part of the solution, get Out of his way!

  58. When will we stop fighting fights that helps no-one especially, in our community.

  59. Ronald B. Saunders

    Correction on the above post: The word is between not bewteen. The word is analysts not analyst.
    Thank you

    Spelling Compliance Police.

  60. Ronald B. Saunders

    Unfortunatley many of us in public and private life have resorted to name calling in expressing our opinions about a particular subject or person.
    Sadly, no one is immune from the primitive art of name calling even the President of the United States of America, and most people engage in the use of name calling as a defense mechanism to cover-up for their own feelings of gross insecurities and inadequacies.
    Its always better to attack the problem one is addressing rather than the person. I think Dr. West is a brillant scholar who is clever enough to use other words or actions to describe his relevant concerns about Melissa Harris Perry.

    I don’t know all of the facts in what appears to be a professional feud bewteen Dr. West and Ms. Perry so I will reserve final judgment in the instant case.
    It appears as though Melissa Harris Perry went on a well orchestrated offensive against Dr. West because of his critical critique of the Obama presidency, and both Ms. Perry and Rev. Sharpton emerged with unique positions with MSNBC.
    I believe that all of this speaks for itself.

    If Ms. Perry, and Dr. West had issues or unsolved problems centering around her failure to get tenure at Princeton they should have attempted to have constructive dialogue as two professionals to resolve those concerns which maybe much deeper than the public is privilege to know.

    Further I supported Ms. Perry when she attacked Eric Holder’s comments about ” We are a nations of Cowards about race.” But now it appears as though Ms. Perry, like Rev. Sharpton have become blind surrogates and apologists for President Obama and both have lost all crediblity as fair and balanced news analyst, and commentators.

    • What speaks for itself? Did Cornel apply for a talking head job at MSNBC? Was he turned down because he criticized President Obama? We could extend the argument to Tavis. He has had a television show for a long time and he criticizes the President. Where you see a correlation may be nothing more than serendipity.

      • Ronald B. Saunders

        Jambo Mrs Ladner: Indeed your response to my comment was positive, and noteworthy in that they were, I believe, not only well-meaning and well informed but courageous, non-politically motivated nor orchestrated by the status quo.
        I admire your involvement in the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960’s for this you are to be commended. I have also been involved in the struggle for Black Liberation/Civil Rights Movement from the late 1950’s up to the present time. As you know fully Joyce our ever evolving struggle for Black Liberation has never ended.

        Sadly, Joyce I can say honestly that I wouldn’t have my trained German Police Dog watch the Rev. Al Sharpton supposedly news show on MSNBC. Therefore you and I have a great disagreement about Al Sharpton’s show but that doesn’t make your position right or my position wrong or vice versa.
        I am a avid reader and listener to many news sources such as the Black Agenda Report,
        YourWorldNews, the Final Call, the New Pittsburgh Courier, some BET news programs, Defense News, London Times, some PBS and NPR programs. However I must state that both National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting serve corporate and imperial interests. They’re called public to conceal their agenda.

        We should not be taking sides in this Gong Show circus involving Dr.Perry and Dr. West because we do not know all the facts; and plus the fact Black people have far more important things to worry about than two professors/educators who drink and eat from the same white Educational-Industrial-Complex trough. This above article is nothing but pure unadulterated Yellow Journalism at its finest but it has opened up dialogue between people of color on this site, which is positive.

        I rather we discuss the contributions of Ida Wells Barnett, Ella Baker, Fannie Lou Hamer, Daisy Bates, Sisters of the Black Panther Party, Queen N’Zinga, Claudette Colvin, Rosa Parks, Harriett Tubman, Cinque, Robert Williams, James S. Robinson Jr., Malcolm X, Kwame Ture, Seku Ture, Amilcar Cabral, Kwame Nkrumah, SNCC,Frederick Douglass, Martin Delaney, Marcus Garvey, Medgar Evers, Angela Davis, Amelia Boynton Robinson, Queen Mother Moore, Alberta King, Dr. Dorothy Height,Thomas Sankara,W.E.B.Dubois,the Freedom Riders, PAIGC Militants,the Young Lords,Assata Shakur, The Deacons, Fanon’s Black Skin/White Mask, J.Ernest Wilkins, Jr.,Queen of Sheba, RAM, in the context of Black Liberation which would be far more meaningful than talking about Doctors Perry and West.

        To this I might add a quote from Robert Frost: ” Half of the world has something to say and can’t say it; the other half has nothing to say and keeps on saying it.”
        Joyce, what have you been trying to say? Smile!

  61. Aside from being smart and attractive, MHP seems to have drawn a lot of attention away from CW. I don’t believe for a second, that his convoluted rants about the poor are sincere, and his incoherent criticism of the President and other notable black leaders with real jobs, lends absolutely nothing to the discussion. If CW likes the poor so much, he should become one of them.

    • Well said my friend. But West, Jesse, Tavis, Cosby and the rest of the so call (we speak for the blacks in this country)would never want to be without that money. If half of the blacks with money would build 50 homes one in each state & just give it to a family in a homeless shelter that would help the poor more then them running their mouths.

      • Glad I saw this post I was about say something along those lines .
        I can name at least 2 black millionaires who could finance community businesses employing and selling to the black community and just think if some of the others would join in .
        How about building and staffing small schools right there in low income neighborhoods I’m saying like at least 60 students there are lots of parents like me that can only wish they could send their child to a more intense learning environment.
        this would mean a lot more than tossing around labels and accusations .

        • Let poor little no money restaurant about to closed up me share an example with big money folk and our leaders who talk the black talk but have yet to show they are willing to walk the black walk. I have given out four scholarships to four students this past September as appreciation for the support that my customers have given me over the last 17 months. If I can do that with a business that’s only been open by faith, how much more could get done if those who got more and know more would start doing more in the Community and be examples of doers for our young people and not just rappers. Do you think there isn’t a connection between our kids just wanting to be Rappers in the community and not community builders. That’s why they are always asking us older folks what are you all doing.

        • Let poor little no money restaurant about to closed up me share an example with big money folk and our leaders who talk the black talk but have yet to show they are willing to walk the black walk. I have given out four scholarships to four students this past September as appreciation for the support that my customers have given me over the last 17 months. If I can do that with a business that’s only been open by faith, how much more could get done if those who got more and know more would start doing more in the Community and be examples of doers for our young people and not just rappers. Do you think there isn’t a connection between our kids just wanting to be Rappers in the community and not community builders.

      • The only African American I am aware of actually doing just what you described is Michael Epps and his wife through their foundation. And without fanfare. I personally find it fascinating to see the rich and famous make a trek over to Africa and feel compelled to make a financial stake there, yet ignore the needs in the communities here at home.

        • Amen . My Sista, More of us should speak out. Reminds me of our ‘neighborhood gossips ‘ , when they come with the ‘dirt on others’ . My response . Now tell me something you really ‘Know to be fact’ What’s YOUR ‘ angle. MHP may be . what they say she is’ however more good could be done ‘ If all involved realized ‘ that LOVE they profess is an Actionable emotion . Lets get busy ‘ taking care of OUR own !!!!!!!

        • To E.Joyce Moore,thanks for the news abt Mike Epps. I had no idea. I will check out your work.I learned of it thru comments here. I got so caught up in CW/TS that I still haven’t heard Dr Melissa’s comments. To everyone else,my point is the only one of these people not being purposely divisive is our President.Unless you’re in the 1%!!

        • I’m in agreement with you my sister

          • Those who have money should look to help their people here in America first, I love my sisters and brothers form the continent of Africa, but they never have tried to bring any of that gold or oil money over here to America and help us,the African that I know have me they have been told to stay away from African Americans because we are lazy. Who’s telling them that and why are they not willing to get to know us for themselves. I have helped to take some African kids to a big dairy farm in homer NY, to have one of the kids come and tell me they where told not to come into my Restaurant, which has an African name ADOPUE’. When the adults in and see I’m not one of them they never come back.

        • Don’t forget Magic Johnson!

      • Right on Brother Pete! As one who believes little of what these self appointed leaders like Tavis Smiley and Cornell West say and much about what they do, I suggest that these guys go some where sit in a corner and be silent; they should stop hating on others, particularly people of color. Unless they are out there pooling their resources and doing something constructive like housing the homeless or working with banks to assist poor people across the country from home foreclosure I for one don’t want to hear their noise, and that is all it is – a bunch jealous noise while they go around the country exploiting poor people.

      • Hello Pete, giving stuff to people helps no one in the long run, the exception would be a job.

      • Renelda Moorehead

        Excellent idea about building homes for the poor families now living in shelters. A reversal of fortune is not the answer tothese black peoplespokespersons. But your idea is solid. Maybe
        you could present them with a proposal. Or you might
        contact some homeless family shelters to follow through on your excellent idea.

        • The best thing you can do for the poor, is not join them. Let’s face it…only children are poor. The pathetic women who decide to have children they can’t support get no sympathy from me. People who spend their days avoiding work, and nights sleeping in a shelter, get no sympathy from me. Before you people continue to feel sorry for others, go visit your local urban high school, and you will see future parasites everywhere, biding their time until they drop out, and join the criminal undercalsss, or the perpetually pregnant.

      • So now if a black celebrity doesn’t give his own hard earned money to the masses he’s considered a phony? People like you, need to get off your asses, and make your own damn money, and stop trying to dole out others money. Let me get you straight. I don’t care if I earned 100 billion dollars, I am not obligated to give anyone one damn cent if I don’t want to. That is exactly why we have so many people laying around waiting for someone else to give them something. Wake the hell up, this is America. Instead of sitting around worrying about others money, and complaining, go out in the world and use your brains to enrich your own lives, like every other racial group that comes to this country.

        • Amen Moonhead…in fact, I think if we had a little more hunger in this country, we’d have a lot less unemployment.

        • You sound like herman cain . Don’t think those other ethnic individuals didn’t get help from others who came before them who do you see advocating amnesty for the illegals I mean beside AL Sharpton and I didn’t mean to say donate but a investment would be nice . but only if you wanted to .
          The other side of the crab bucket mentality is I got mine now you get yours .

        • Thank You Moonhead. I came from a very poor family. My Dad died at the age of 30 and my Mom raised 6 children
          with no education. She taught us the importance of
          work , and work we did. No welfare for us. We all brought our own homes and paid for them. Lived full
          lives and I am now retired, 84 still enjoying life
          and still ignoring people like Cornell West and his entire group. I am not a college professor but believe me I have more common sense than all of them put together. Amen.

        • LOOK AT PERCENT OF PEOPLE GETTING CHECKS
          TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN–ONE CHECK PER
          CHILD –USUALLY PAID OUT TWICE–BY MOTHER
          AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBER CLAIMING THEM.

          MEDIA SLANTS TO PICK UP THESE VOTERS—
          MOST DO NOT VOTE–I AM SICK OF ALL OF
          IT–TOO MANY WAYS TO GET CHECKS AND GET
          PAID NOT TO WORK. SENIOR CITIZENS BUILT THIS
          COUNTRY AND THEY ARE THE ONES GETTING SCREWED.

    • Well-said. CW has been placing nails into his own legacy’s coffin with his scathing and unfair critiques of President Obama. As vitriolic as some of his critiques have been, he’s been rather thin-skinned when others have criticized him and Tavis in turn. CW is a glory hound who has done little of the work that he implies President Obama neglects.

      • Renelda Moorehead

        @Mark Dub–What is wrong with negative criticism about Obama, The U.S. President? He is not impervious to being criticized. It is the right–no duty–of citizens to question our leaders. Obama is
        no exception. It is blacks hungering for a demi-god, a savior–who chafe at any criticism of their
        idol, Obama. Get real! He is just a man representing the Presidency of The United States. He is not a god. He is a leader, and leaders should be scrutinized. It is the American Way.

        • To Renelda Moorhead and others: I fully agree that Pres. Obama is not above being called to counsel. Indeed,he should be. He needs to know that He owes us. Proportionaly speaking, we’re the ones who brung him to the Dance–and he is obligated to save us a dance. We don’t have to be mad at the Brother in order to tell him what “Lord Loves” and that the wholetruf. In fact,I refer you to the Youtube video”Rappin Granny Tell’s Preisdent Obama”It’s Time to Nigger-Up! Granny tells it like it is. Also, for all you”politically correct” , don’t us that word, niggerism hater’s–I refer you to no less authority than the egghead “Humpty Dumpty” who said”A word means exactly what I say it means–no more or no less. Now Run tell That! PS; Don’t be telling me to correct my spelling. I ain’t got no spell check handie.

    • Amazing how some of us just worship at the Obama alter like he’s a cult leader. Having political disagreements are a part of normal discourse. It’s shameful how the Obama surrogates have maligned Mr Smiley and Dr. West simply because they disagree. To attack their character proves that they’re making a strong argument on the merits. Challenge them on that and leave the personal stuff out. Name calling on both sides of this issue has to stop.

      • I wonder why any comment that shows a like and agreement with the president provokes the idea that one is bowing at the shrine or thinks the president is a God? I do know that I am sick and tired of Tavis and maybe if the professor would cut his hair some things could get in his head. All he does is put down other Blacks….ALL THE TIME as if he has done such great things for the Black community. He didn’t even want to teach at a Black University. If he said something good about anybody, except Tavis, who every single Black person in the media describes as a self serving egomaniac, that would be news to me. Instead of using his time going around pointing out the problems, what is he going to do about it?

        • The answer is simple, and you probably know it. Before Obama, Dr. West, Tavis and Dr. Dyson, for example, were respected for their work on behalf of black people. Because they criticized what they see as a lack of commitment in the Black community from the president, they are now outcasts–reduced to caricatures, insults and bad jokes.

          Now let’s see. What did they do to deserve this treatment–nothing. They spoke their minds, as they have done for years, but this time it happened to be against Obama and many in the Black community see it as overstepping their boundary. How dare anyone criticize OUR president.

          Criticism of our political leaders is the foundation of our democracy and many blacks do not want to accept it, at the moment, because they are in love with the symbolism of a black president. For symbolism, they have given up demanding action of their behalf. Sad.

    • I have so many conflicting thoughts abt these people(or are they “Characters”?). What I KNOW is that CW is very divisive, while talking about loving everybody.Tavis seems to want the President to walk on water.But,like the GOP,moonwalking on water wouldn’t be enough.I admire Tavis’ talents immensely and a man who works should be compensated. This is a capitalist society.But I haven’t heard of Tavis doing anything that didn’t better his bottom line.CW either.To Rasheed,I respectfully disagree.I’m not calling anyone a fraud, but Frauds do go to jail on purpose and talk about the issues of the “poor”,etc for their own enrichment.I’m 50 and I’ve been hearing abt Poverty Pimps since childhood!Any publicity is good publicity when your income depends on publicity

    • Look, give Melissa time to grow more; if she’s on the liberal side, she will speak out on issues with a sharp toung as time goes by. Melissa Harris-Perry is a breath of fresh air. Cornell West is beginning to behave like a lunatic, ever since Barak Obama was elected president of the U.S. Calm down Mr. West, add to the sanctity of the country, don’t degrade so much.

    • Wow, we have really gone in reverse since the 60s. I never heard such ugly debate between Dr. King, Macolm X, Doc Fletcher, Asa Hilliard, or other leaders of my generation. I was a police officer, but went to Black Panther Party meetings in San Francisco, because we were fighting the same enemy.

      • I have to agree with you, only this is the worst I’ve seen. This kind of back biting does nothing to further the cause of African Americans.

        • I watched her show on msnbc, was very impressed with her delivery and ability to tie historical facts. We need that kind of delivery, which I seen too little of since the 60s when we had black leadership that was commited to our community. I was fortunate to have been born at a time when black leadership was at its pinnacle, and have tried to follow through by writing several books.

          I write about religion foreign to our culture in the vein of Drs. Hilliard, Diop, Obenga, Jochnan and Van Sertima. I write about what is was like to be a police officer, while attending college with members of the Black Panther Party. I tell a truth that many of my community deny, so I support any group, or individual who want to uplift our community and Harris-Perry is very impressive.

          • Ronald B. Saunders

            Mr. Delaney: Where you attending those classes on your own with the Black Panther Party members? Or where you paid to attend those classes by your own police Department as part of a broader program of the US governments Counter-Intelligence Program to destroy the Panthers? In other words were you spying on members of the Black Panther Party?
            Did you inform Black Panther party members on strategic police plans to destroy our party.
            Did you have a working relationship with the Black Panther Party? If so! Could you please elucidate on what your role was in the context of the Black Panther Party?
            Did you ever report to your superiors that you were attending classes with Black Panther Party Members?
            If so! What was their response to knowing that you were in attendance at said classes?
            Provide the names of the Panthers in your class or classes? How many classes did you have with them?
            Please give us the course name of those classes?
            Did your superiors ever report to the FBI that you were attending classes with the Panthers?

            Did the FBI ever interview you for direct knowledge on members of the Black Panther Party?
            Did any of the party members in SF know that you were a member of the San Francisco Police Department when you attended those alleged BPP meetings? Did you know of other police officers who were in attendance at those Black Panther Party meetings and what was your relationship to them?
            When you retired from the SF Police Department what rank where you and long did you hold that rank?
            Where was your beat and what Police Division or Department did you operate out of in policing the streets of San Francisco?

            Did you have direct knowledge that the SF and Oakland Chapter of the Black Panther Party were infiltrated by police operatives and the FBI?
            Could you provide the names of the Black Panther Party members who were in attendance at the meetings that you claimed you attended?

            Did you ever write about your attendance at those Black Panther Party meetings and what was the purpose and who did you share that information with? Do you still have those writings?

            * How did you know that the people you claim were Panthers were actual Black Panther Party members or where they part of the Black Panther Movement?
            Have you looked/reviewed your own police file under the Freedom Of Information Act?

            If you are legitimate I would like to commend you for your service and if I can be of any assistance please do not hesitate to holler.

            • The department hated me as much as they hated my classmates. I worked as a community relations officer in Hunters Point, and later developed the Bayview Hunters Point College. I write about my experiences in Black N Blue, an ethnic profile from U.S. Air Force Blue to San Francisco P.D. Blue and beyond.

              • Ronald B. Saunders

                Mr. Delaney: I will assume that have good reasons for not answering any of my questions.
                You claim they hated you as much as the BPP but I cannot for the life of me put that into the right context until I hear your replies to the previous mentioned questions.

                Where you an AP in the USA Airforce? What type of clearance did you have while in the AF?

                • I had a top secret clearance, and have been told that I was black balled after an illustrous career as a police officer. If you send me an email address, I will send you the opening chapter of my book which will answer some of your question, or you can go to my website.

                  • Ronald B. Saunders

                    Mr. Delaney: Did you have that Top Secret Clearance when you were attending classes with members of the Black Panther Party? Where any members of the Black Panther Party aware that you had a Top Secret Clearance? Where you spying on the Black Panther Party for the San Francisco Police Department or Air Force Intelligence?
                    A Top Secret Clearance means that Sam trusted you with classified information.
                    Here are a few of the clearances as follows:
                    1. Confidential-usually for Civilians
                    2. Secret
                    3. Top Secret
                    4. Crypto or Krypto
                    5. CIA Badge and Poly.

                    • It was in the military at the age of 18 that I realized the many lies we were told. During a training session we were told about the Gary Powers story being pre package 6 months before he flew over Russia. Blacks were overlooked for promotions and relegated to second squad on the basketball team with the exception of those who went along to get along. I was fortunate to have attended segregated school,sold the Afro-American, Journal and guide and many periodicals. If I didn’t read and tell my teachers what was in them I lost customers. I didn’t know I was in a poetry competition, but can tell you that everyone in the bay area knew I was police officer, because of bad press! When I attended BPP Meetings Stokeley(Kwame Ture) was at times in attendance. Adam Rogers, Dupree Oklahoma, the Mabreys and Bells were some of my closest friends.

                    • Ronald B. Saunders

                      You are still tap dancing and many of those brothers you mentioned are dead. I knew Kwame Ture when he went to Howard U and in our days in SNCC.

                      Please give your website!

                  • Ronald B. Saunders

                    Mr. Delaney: Did you have that Top Secret Clearance when you were attending classes with members of the Black Panther Party? Where any members of the Black Panther Party aware that you had a Top Secret Clearance? Where you spying on the Black Panther Party for the San Francisco Police Department or Air Force Intelligence?
                    A Top Secret Clearance means that Sam trusted you with classified information.
                    Here are a few of the clearances as follows:
                    1. Confidential-usually for Civilians
                    2. Secret
                    3. Top Secret
                    4. Crypto or Krypto
                    5. CIA Badge and Poly.

                    Give me your website address!

            • Ode to Rick who belongs in a sanatorium
              Sing to My Country Tis of Thee

              My leaders lied to me,
              and stole my liberty,
              truth aint their thing,
              They stole my father’s pride,
              and when my mother died,
              good health insurance was denied
              of this I sing.

              They said what I should do,
              my country would be true,
              no dreams in vain.
              I joined to go to war,
              my hopes they would restore,
              then I came home to more
              effort without gain.

              All you said was a con,
              said your word was your bond,
              each time you lied
              Said I should go to school’
              live by the golden rule.
              I found you played me as the fool
              Truth you denied.

              I worked so hard to build,
              my efforts all uphill,
              my wants delayed.
              I traveled round the globe,
              nations where flags unfold,
              invited me into their fold,
              None of them afraid.

              Now as I listen to
              the nonsense that you spew
              lies are your tool.
              Inside this heart of mine
              is love for all mankind.
              Why did your God make you so blind,
              and such a fool?

              • Ronald B. Saunders

                Mr. Delaney: I will assume that you have very good reasons for not answering all of my questions.

                Rick Santorum is a snake who is attempting to appeal to his base of JoeSixPacks and low information voters.

                Mr. Delaney you are not the only great poet in the country.

                Barack Hussein Obama’s Unjust Afghan War
                Revisited Part II

                From Kabul to Kandahar
                American soldiers are dying on
                the crusted cold dry desolate
                Afghan Plains from left to right
                with no immediate end to the
                incessant genocide
                in sight.

                How will the Obstreperous
                Taliban resist America’s
                avaricious imperial
                might?

                Maybe the Taliban and their
                Compadres will play hide-and-
                go-seek,
                but I know they will
                Fight.

                I have seen courageous Americans mothers
                weeping
                and rueful spouses crying
                but when I look around
                our soldiers are still dying.

                Why must our brave American
                soldiers die?
                For the despotic government
                of unsavory corrupt Hamid Karzai?

                Why must our gallant American
                soldiers die?
                For Barack Hussein Obama’s deceitful
                lies?

                The cunning Obama says the
                Afghan fight is a just war,
                But I ask our laudable young
                people,
                Is this the change you voted
                For?

                Then you go sign up
                For Barack Hussein Obama’s Unjust
                Afghan War.

                By Ronald B. Saunders, June 29, 2010

          • I couldn’t agree with you more and like you I am immensely proud of this sister and wish her much success. As for all of this other b**** I’d rather spend my time focusing on those worth my time.
            Peace.

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